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Nov 1, 2010 10:14 AM CST
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Name: Alan
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November is going to be much like October. The nights are getting much cooler. If you are in the low deserts, continue to fertilize your roses once every two weeks with Miracle Gro. Or if you prefer to fertilize less often, use Oscomote Vegetable time released fertilizer, 15-15-15. In the higher deserts and mountains, stop fertilizing all together now.

Remember, if you are using Miracle Gro, it is still wise to use it early in the morning, as the sun is rising, or late in the afternoon as the sun is setting. This helps prevent the fertilizer from burning the leaves of your plants, which could happen on warmer days with the sun shining directly down on your rose bushes.

You can now reduce the amount of water you use to water your roses. I generally cut my watering cycles from three times a week to two times a week for November and once a week in December/January. Especially if we are getting a lot of winter rain, as we commonly do.

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Nov 1, 2010 10:34 AM CST
Name: Susie
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Thanks, Alan.
I noticed I have thrips on at least one of my roses. A pink hybrid Tea. I have no idea of the name. I used a Bayer's systemic on all 4 this weekend. The pink one gets the most sun and has lots of buds...but, they look small compared to previous years.

I'm thinking of relocating 2 climbers to the West side of my house. In summer it will get over head sun from 11ish to 3ish. I supposed December-ish would be a good time to do this? Whack it back, dig it up and transplant?

Thanks for your guidance!
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Nov 2, 2010 7:53 AM CST
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Name: Alan
Chandler, AZ; 85225 (Zone 9b)
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December/January probably will be the best time to move your climbers. Especially since fall does not want to seem to cool down much this year Sad Yes, cut them back to about knee height so they are easier for you to move. Then dig them out, keeping as much as the roots intact with the soil as possible. If you loose a significant amount of the root ball, I would cut the canes back to about one foot.

Bayer Systemic is the best for thrips if you don't like them on your roses. However the bad thing is, you also kill all the good bugs, like the green lace wings which eat the thrips. I choose not to use any pesticides in my garden, but I don't show roses, so I let mother nature deal it's hand. Thrips generally show up worst on the lighter/white roses. So if you chose darker colors and shades you will not notice the thrips so much. Nor are the attracted as much to the darker colored roses. Weird huh!?

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Nov 2, 2010 9:57 PM CST
Name: Susie
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Thanks, Alan,
This is the first time in 4 yrs I've used a systemic in my garden. To date, I've used just Fish Emul. But, I've had thrips for the last two years and they definitely seem to take a toll on my roses. I have a pink H.T., a yellow and a tangerine colored climber and a deep red.... climber, I think. Everything seems to be affected by something that makes for small, tiny blooms... I'm thinking thrips. The first year I lived here the blooms were huge!!! We'll see... I've broadcasted the Bayers... maybe it will work on my nemesis!
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