I don't know if this will help any, and don't even know the origins of this heirloom garlic, but I grow Meiskij, a turban (hardneck).

Meiskij is the German transliteration of Майский, the Russian adjectival form of May (the month). It's transliterated as Mayskiy in English. I assume it ripens in May?

RE a name something like "Szarny tzetzl":

>> If it's "Czarny," that would be the Polish word for black in the German system of transliteration (Charny in the English system).

It makes a lot of sense that an heirloom tomato might have the word "Black" in its name.

These were the closest I found in Tatania's Tomatobase:
Kozula 126 Czarny Lagodny
Kozula 129 Czarny Twardy

This was in the description of both:
"The original cross was made by Anna Kozula, a well-known tomato breeder in Poland."
and
"F3 seeds were distributed to North American gardeners in 2010"

"Tzetzl" sounded Yiddish to me, so I looked that up. In Yiddish, "ZETZ" can mean a strong blow or punch or smack upside the head.

However, this is all speculative unless someone recognizes a known cultivar.

All my garlic is harvested in May.

Starkville's at about 33.5 degrees N. The latitude of Russia is 60 degrees N, so it might be a big deal to have some type of garlic ripening in May there.

LOL I had to get out of bed and find the seed packet for the correct name! It was fun hearing your guesses.
Sarkharnyi Zhelty which is supposed to mean Sugary Yellow.
I really don't know what language it is.
Got it from Casey's heirloom, tomatoes of Airdrie.

I think you're still misspelling it. You have an extra "r" in Sakharnyi. The name does mean sugary yellow in Russian.

Well that's how the seed packet had it spelled

I'm not surprised. I found a dozen different spellings when I Googled the name.

I've been following along as y'all discuss Russian tomatoes and found an interesting one that I would like to try .
The name varies slightly, but here's what I found so far.

gigant limmony=lemon giant=lemonny

http://calezane.home.xs4all.nl...

And according to this site...
http://tatianastomatobase.com/...
Quote:
Russian name: Лимонный (a.k.a. "Limonnyi" or "Limonny" - either is a 'correct' Russian spelling) :unquote.

>> Sarkharnyi Zhelty which is supposed to mean Sugary Yellow.

"Black Punch" or "Black Boxer" must be my worst guess ever! Thanks for clarifying.

I can see how "Sakharnyi" and "saccharine" share a common root.

I'm still wondering what could mean "tzetzel"

Since we're making it up now, we're like Humpty-Dumpty.
We can make the words mean anything we want.

pretzel (English)
slap upside the head (Yiddish)
Tsetse Fly (sometimes spelled tzetze)
Los Zetas (a powerful and violent criminal syndicate in Mexico)

I wish I could find a word in some language that meant "fruit thrown at bad performers". It would be a good name for a prolific, soft and thin-skinned heirloom tomato with big fruits and not-very-good taste.

My guess is "Cherny prinz". Which means "Black prince".

I didn't realize at first that "Cherny" refers to the same word as "Tshyornyi", as in Cardinal Black: 'Kardinal Tshyornyi'.

Yes, that's the trouble with transliteration. When people transliterate the Cyrillic alphabet into the Roman alphabet, they use the spelling rules that are common to their own language. "Tshy" is someone's approximation of the sound we pronounce as "ch."