Plant ID forum: Dogwood cultivar ?

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Name: Deb
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Bonehead
Apr 24, 2014 4:56 PM CST
I received this as a NOID gift. It is probably a dwarf or semi-dwarf, about 8' tall and appears to be full-grown (good girth to the trunk). Hoping someone will recognize it - I've been searching online and can't find many with this petal separation.


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Name: Danita
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Danita
Apr 24, 2014 5:14 PM CST
The flower shape looks like Cornus kousa. Perhaps Cornus kousa 'Heart Throb'?
http://www.mahoneysgarden.com/deciduous-tree/cornus-kousa-he...

Among other options to investigate is Cornus kousa chinensis 'Hanros'/'Radiant Rose'.
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Name: Greene
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greene
Apr 24, 2014 6:47 PM CST
Cornus Satomi (Rosabella)?
Sunset Zone 28, AHS Heat Zone 9, USDA zone 8b~~"Leaf of Faith"
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Apr 25, 2014 11:24 AM CST
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plantladylin
Apr 25, 2014 11:30 AM CST
Bonehead said:When I was growing up, we had a native woods behind our house with wild crabapples. My vague recollection was an average sized fruit tree, rather nondescript white blossoms, and small hard crabapples we used as throwing weapons. I think most of the crabapples sold in nurseries are grafted trees chosen for their beautiful blooms and often purple leaves, much different than what I grew up with. I've been more confused by my search because nurseries simply list them as Malus 'Cultivar' without including the species name. I don't know enough about how grafting might affect naming a plant.
Deb, did you mean to make this post at your other thread regarding your noid crabapples? Green Grin!

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Name: Deb
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Bonehead
Apr 25, 2014 11:37 AM CST
Oopsie, yes you are right - another 'bonehead' post for me! I've edited it to show nothing and will repost on the correct thread. Thanks for the heads-up.
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plantladylin
Apr 25, 2014 11:46 AM CST
Smiling I tip my hat to you.
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Bonehead
Apr 25, 2014 12:33 PM CST
Cornus satomi (Rosabella) is about the closest visual match, but then it may also be called Cornus kousa 'Miss Satomi' - so confusing.
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Bonehead
Apr 25, 2014 12:40 PM CST
In our database is a C. kousa 'Satomi' - @Handed I noted that you have this tree, could you give my photo a look and let me know how it compares with yours?
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Danita
Apr 25, 2014 1:09 PM CST
Everything I'm finding lists "Satomi" as just another Cornus kousa cultivar name and not as a species epithet.

Just looking at the different photos, I'm thinking it may be hard to figure out the cultivar definitively (unless you find a dogwood expert Smiling .) 'Satomi' looks like a good candidate but, from looking at online photos, many of the pink kousas look pretty similar and flowers appear to be very mutable depending on the temperature and such. Shrug! Good luck!

Regardless of its ID, I've got to say that you got a very pretty gift! Big Grin
Name: Deb
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Bonehead
Apr 25, 2014 1:33 PM CST
Yes, it is a pretty blossom, and has a very definitive yellowish tone at the center which a lot of the pink forms don't show. I'm mainly wanting to add it to My List and for that purpose being exact is not a do-or-die deal. I will upload my photo into my personal comments section and note that the ID is a bit sketchy, but at least it will show up in my main inventory list. I won't add the photo to the general database as I can't say with certainty that it's a match. Thanks for all the help, and I'm hoping Handed will chime in since he/she has an actual plant to compare it to.
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Handed
Apr 26, 2014 1:21 AM CST
Bonehead said:In our database is a C. kousa 'Satomi' - @Handed I noted that you have this tree, could you give my photo a look and let me know how it compares with yours?


I bought it from a nursery as Satomi but I believe it was mis-labelled since the most pink it gets on the bracts are right at thetips only. I love it still. The label that came on it looks just like your photo though.

Name: Deb
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Bonehead
Apr 26, 2014 12:44 PM CST
Thanks, Handed. Satomi it is, then, for my purposes.
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