Yea! Do you know if the Dutchman's Pipe are the native ones? Down here in FL they sell the tropical ones, too. Problem being, the tropical ones are great for the Polydamas Swallowtails but too toxic for the Pipevine Swallowtails. I grow both kinds as does MOSI where I volunteer. Still, I've never had much luck raising Pipevine STs. Polydamas are a lot easier; sometimes I think they're near indestructible! Also, just an FYI to people who don't know - most passion vines are okay but I hear the caterpillars don't survive on ones with the red blooms. Just one of the many reasons I advocate native plants. Plus, in my experience, the butterflies tend to lay on the native varieties first. More familiarity, I guess?