Plant ID forum: Not Fragaria daltoniana

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Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Apr 28, 2014 11:37 AM CST

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Former member KAMasud submitted these photos to the Fragaria daltoniana entry in error. I'd like to move them to the correct entry, but I don't know what it would be. Any suggestions?

Name: Lori
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growitall
Apr 28, 2014 12:54 PM CST
Note that the photos were taken in the Punjab region of NW India.
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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JRsbugs
Apr 28, 2014 1:31 PM CST
Looking closer at the close up photo it seems to have a growth habit similar to a wild blackberry, it possibly has thorns on the stems too. You can see the long, tender new stems, in the full picture some are heading to the ground which is what this type of plant does, they take root.

http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Yellow%20Himala...

Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Apr 28, 2014 4:22 PM CST

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So do we think the photos should be moved to Rubus ellipticus?

I fully expected to find an earlier thread in this forum requesting identification of the plant, but I saw nothing when I searched for all of Masud's threads. Arif was such a constant presence in the Plant ID Forum when he was a member that it's hard to believe he ever identified anything without asking for advice in this forum first.
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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JRsbugs
Apr 28, 2014 5:10 PM CST
I couldn't say for sure it is Rubus ellipticus zuzu, I have gone through other plants in the same family on the flowersofindia site and this is the only one which comes close. That doesn't mean there isn't another species which is similar but if there was I would have thought it would be on the flowersofindia site.

It would certainly be a better bet than where it is! Hilarious!

http://www.cabi.org/isc/datasheet/47994

More photos, some leaves are indented at the tip but others are not. Notice the new shoot tips. The leaves on the flowersofindia site are not indented.

http://www.cabi.org/isc/datasheet/47994

There are varieties which could explain the indented tip,

http://www.botanicalgarden.ubc.ca/potd/2009/05/rubus_ellipti...

The leaf texture and venation does fit,

http://luirig.altervista.org/photos-search/index2.php?rcn=50...

Rubus ellipticus Sm. is a raspberry with yellow fruits, native to tropical and subtropical India and Asia . Raspberry (Rubus ellipticus Smith) is one of the tastiest wild fruits growing in abundance throughout North-western Himalayas.


http://sanjeetbiotech.blogspot.co.uk/2011/04/rubus-ellipticu...

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Starr_080219-9016_Rub...

Seems good to me!
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Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Apr 28, 2014 5:15 PM CST

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Thanks, Janet. Smiling That's where the photos will go.
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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JRsbugs
Apr 28, 2014 5:28 PM CST
I tip my hat to you. Thumbs up

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