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May 21, 2014 8:46 PM CST
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
I agree with Deb on the closest city. I also live in a large county that encompasses a wide range of growing zones.
This is sure going to be a great new feature. Thumbs up
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May 23, 2014 3:26 AM CST
Name: Danita
GA (Zone 7b)
Charter ATP Member Forum moderator Hummingbirder Salvias Butterflies Birds
Plant Identifier Vegetable Grower Container Gardener Seed Starter Cat Lover Region: Georgia
Okay, I stumbled across this during a bout of insomnia and am inspired to be verbose. Smiling

I would love to see the data generate a map for each plant. Being able to see the trend of where a plant likes to grow at a quick glance would be wonderful.

For example, when someone chooses to "Rate a Plant" that data entry would be represented by a colored dot, such as:

Green dot= Performs well and, survives both heat of summer and cold of winter
(if a plant was a true annual, it would only need to perform well in the appropriate season)
Yellow dot= Performs so-so, or survives summer or winter intermittently
Red dot= Performs poorly
and also..
Purple dot= Performs well but requires special handling (such as over wintering indoors) Purple is, of course, because these plants are regal but require some pampering like royalty.

Each basic rating could have an option to choose a short detail that would show up when a map user hovered over a dot. For example: Red dot could have: died in summer heat, died in winter cold, survived but performed poorly.
Purple dot could have: give extra winter protection/mulch well, must overwinter inside, used as winter annual only, etc.

Being able to zoom to state level with county lines depicted would be helpful.

I'm not sure if you could get permission to use them, but, if so, you could even overlay the date dots onto Köppen–Geiger climate classification maps so you could see the general trend of which climates the plants preferred. Since most of the data would, most likely, be from the USA, that might be helpful to gardeners in other countries since they could go by the climate classifications.

Being able to map where a plant was native would be really nice, too, but that would require a lot of data entry so probably wouldn't be feasible unless you had a way to import that info (or a lot of volunteers.)

Okay, enough rambling from me for now...

I know that whatever you end up doing will be wonderful, as usual! Big Grin
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May 23, 2014 8:47 AM CST
Name: Ron
Naples, Florida (Zone 10a)
Region: Florida Hummingbirder Butterflies Adeniums Bromeliad Hibiscus
Foliage Fan Plant and/or Seed Trader Xeriscape Seed Starter Garden Ideas: Level 1 Plant Identifier
I definitely use this feature on DG, one reason I =always= go there when researching a plant new to me. Zone 10 in California is MUCH different than zone 10 in Florida.

Maybe not so useful for many people, as what grows in southern Ohio will probably grow well in Kentucky, Tennesse, Indiana, etc., given proper soil and water conditions.

For me, many plants that grow in northern Florida will not grow well in south Florida, but at least I might have a shot. But if someone says it grows well in Sarasota or Ft. Lauderdale, I feel much more comfortable it will grow for me.

For me, at least, a decidedly useful feature!
[He] decided that if a few quiet beers wouldn't allow him to see things in a different light, then a few more probably would. - Terry Pratchett
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May 23, 2014 10:09 AM CST
Name: Sherry
Northern California
Sunset Zone 17
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pacific Northwest Seed Starter Region: California Plant Identifier
lol...and you do know, don't you, that Dave founded DG and is responsible for that feature being on DG?
I could be wrong...
and.....
"maybe I should have kept my mouth shut....."
The Urge for Seeds is Strong in This One.....
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May 23, 2014 10:11 AM CST
Name: Deb
Planet Earth (Zone 8b)
Region: Pacific Northwest Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Garden Ideas: Master Level
Lots of positive energy going into the thinking part of this feature - I'm sure whatever evolves will be lovely.
I want to live in a world where the chicken can cross the road without its motives being questioned.
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May 23, 2014 2:16 PM CST
Name: Ron
Naples, Florida (Zone 10a)
Region: Florida Hummingbirder Butterflies Adeniums Bromeliad Hibiscus
Foliage Fan Plant and/or Seed Trader Xeriscape Seed Starter Garden Ideas: Level 1 Plant Identifier
Sherry, I knew he had founded DG, but didn't know he was responsible for that particular feature!

ATP is a much better plant database in conception than the practice one nodding , so I guess he learned a LOT when developing DG.

Consider a plant that is attractive to bees, butterflies and/or birds.
Compare that to a plant that is attractive to bees. And/or birds. And/or butterflies. And/or hummingbirds. This is =SO= much more useful.

I really like what Dave has done with this place!

Ron
[He] decided that if a few quiet beers wouldn't allow him to see things in a different light, then a few more probably would. - Terry Pratchett
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May 23, 2014 2:23 PM CST
Name: Sherry
Northern California
Sunset Zone 17
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pacific Northwest Seed Starter Region: California Plant Identifier
I think that since Dave founded DG, he was responsible for all of the features...was that "grows well here" originally his idea or suggested by someone else? dunno, but he brought it to us.....We all learn and grow from prior experience as we go along and Dave has had a lot of years of experience with all of this as we all move forward, so, yeah, this is better than DG....lol..

I think that sometimes he's so busy with all of his ideas that he has not had time to implement them all yet......just gets better and better.....
I could be wrong...
and.....
"maybe I should have kept my mouth shut....."
The Urge for Seeds is Strong in This One.....
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May 23, 2014 3:10 PM CST
Garden.org Admin
Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
Region: Texas Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Tomato Heads Vermiculture Garden Research Contributor
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Region: Ukraine Garden Sages
I definitely have to do things one at a time.

Certainly over at DG those features they have were all created by me, unless they've added new stuff in the past couple years that I don't know about. Most of those features were made over ten years ago and web technology has improved a lot since then, which is one reason why ATP's features are so more modern and improved.
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May 23, 2014 5:23 PM CST
Name: Deb
Planet Earth (Zone 8b)
Region: Pacific Northwest Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Garden Ideas: Master Level
Plus, Dave is constantly tweaking things to make them better and more responsive to our needs/wishes (needy wishes??) without disabling the entire site for months on end. Oops, sorry, couldn't resist that little dig.
I want to live in a world where the chicken can cross the road without its motives being questioned.
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May 23, 2014 5:36 PM CST
Name: Sherry
Northern California
Sunset Zone 17
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pacific Northwest Seed Starter Region: California Plant Identifier
Ah, yes.....best site of all...and here's what's even better........'Family Owned'...owned by an honorable man, honorable family.....
I could be wrong...
and.....
"maybe I should have kept my mouth shut....."
The Urge for Seeds is Strong in This One.....
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May 23, 2014 5:57 PM CST
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
Hurray! I agree Yes to all of the above. Hurray! Green Grin!
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May 23, 2014 5:58 PM CST
Garden.org Admin
Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
Region: Texas Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Tomato Heads Vermiculture Garden Research Contributor
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Region: Ukraine Garden Sages
*Blush*
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May 23, 2014 6:02 PM CST
Name: Sherry
Northern California
Sunset Zone 17
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pacific Northwest Seed Starter Region: California Plant Identifier
Credit where it's due, Dave....
I could be wrong...
and.....
"maybe I should have kept my mouth shut....."
The Urge for Seeds is Strong in This One.....
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May 23, 2014 7:07 PM CST
Name: woofie
NE WA (Zone 5a)
Charter ATP Member Garden Procrastinator Greenhouse Dragonflies Plays in the sandbox I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
The WITWIT Badge I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Dog Lover Enjoys or suffers cold winters Container Gardener Seed Starter
And it feels like it's owned by ALL of us because Dave is so responsive to our "needy wishes." (Thanks, Deb! Hilarious! )
Confidence is that feeling you have right before you do something really stupid.
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May 24, 2014 8:22 AM CST
Name: Lin Vosbury
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)

Region: Ukraine Region: United States of America Bird Bath, Fountain and Waterfall Region: Florida Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Birds Butterflies Bee Lover Hummingbirder Container Gardener
wcgypsy said:Best of all: 'Family Owned'...owned by an honorable man, honorable family.....
Thumbs up Lovey dubby
~ I'm an old gal who still loves playing in the dirt!
~ Playing in the dirt is my therapy ... and I'm in therapy a lot!


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May 27, 2014 8:07 PM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
Frugal Gardener Garden Procrastinator I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest
Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database.
Danita, I love the feature you described, if it's possible to collect enough data to make it work.

Grower reports overlaid on a Koppen map would be a great research tool!
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Jun 7, 2014 1:48 PM CST
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Region: Ukraine Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Ideas: Master Level Butterflies Charter ATP Member Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Dog Lover
Sorry I got here so late but I love it!!!!!
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others. ~~ Sharon Brown

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