This semp which I purchased as 'Gloconda' is doing some strange things. I was looking for other pictures of Gloconda, and I think this might be a wrong ID. When it was young it did look to be the correct plant.


This year it just looks too red.


But the thing I found really strange is how many of the offsets seem to be getting stripes in the leaves.


I think this one is really cool!


@valleylynn @JungleShadows @banker07 anyone - what do you all think? Gloconda or not?

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Chris, we only have two summer-photos of Gloconda and it is not very popular in german collections;

I've asked our photograph for a newer spring-photo and will show it here;

I know nothing about that variety and we all know how different photos can be; there are some differences between the clone we have on our homepage and yours - but that can be caused by different quantity of sun or differences in soil;

the main appearence looks good - a mainly green variety with long cilia at the leaves;

some red colour in spring isn't unusual for such variety;

you have a very nice plant - it looks very pretty

Peter

Thanks for your response and help Peter. Will look forward to seeing your updated photos.

here it is - now I'm sure we have a different clone;



but I don't know if our clone is the right one

it's really common and absolutely nothing special - I like yours more

Peter

Chris,
I don't have that plant but just a thought. It may be turning back all green from outside inward and the stripe is all that is left of the red. See if it doesn't disappear soon. I have a Raspberry Ice that does that.
cliff

I agree, the one in the 4th pic is really cool!

Thanks Peter - that was fast! I like mine better too! The pictures don't do it justice. The colors are really bright and you notice it immediately in a bed of semps. I got it in mid-summer last year and it remained green the rest of the year.

Interesting thought Cliff....I'll definitely keep an eye on it.

JC, would be great if the red stripe was permanent on the leaves!

I agree with Peter. It won't be long before it will be all green again. What a lovely semp. Here is a photo of Gloconda in spring colors. http://www.smgsucculents.com/S...

I must say that one is a beauty.

It sure is.

Lovely semp Chris! Did you get it from SMG??
Peter you are right that yours looks like several others (Hester, Helveticum are 2 that come to mind)

Yes, I got it from SMG. Thanks for everybody's input!

Oh that's so pretty Chris! I love it!

Thanks Kate. I really like the form this one has too, as well as the unusual markings!

Peter, what does your look like at different times of the year?

Lynn, it's not mine - it belongs to Beatrix Bodmeier;

here is a summer-photo:



and this one is from the homepage of Volkmar Schara - I don't know any other german source for Gloconda;



I know that André Smits has it in his collection - but there is no photo of it; and I guess that Volkmar gets his from André...

Peter

It will be interesting to see what Chris's will look like in another month or two. She came into spring colors much later and we did, because of her winter weather this year.

yes - but the red colour comming up from the middle is a fact; it faded after early spring and becomes more green;

the other clone we have is a green typ with big brown edges in early spring; this colour faded too....but that is another "species" of cultivar;

Peter

Maybe next spring you can get a red stage photo of it?

Lynn I guess there's a misunderstanding....sorry;

the clone with the red colour at spring I've described is that one from Chris;

in europe we have only the other one I've described as second; it has no red colour at spring and so it is another clone indeed;

Peter