Sedum forum: Sedum mexicanum 'Lemon Ball' and Petrosedum rupestre sbsp. rupestre 'Lemon Coral

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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
May 26, 2014 9:00 PM CST

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I finally found out that Lemon Coral and Lemon Ball are the same plants. They are in this new Sedum book that Chris told us about.


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Name: Connie
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pardalinum
May 26, 2014 9:06 PM CST
Does the book give hybridizers' names? It is not unusual for someone to take a plant, give it another name then market it. It happens with lilies more than I care to say. Seems like the Dutch are often behind these shenanigans.

There is nothing better than a paper trail when it comes to establishing identity or a fair chance of identity.
Name: Julia
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springcolor
May 26, 2014 9:20 PM CST
Can you share the difference. Any reference to 'Sahara?
I may have to get that book.
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Name: Connie
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pardalinum
May 26, 2014 9:21 PM CST
I think I will get that book too. A good addition to my collection.
Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
May 26, 2014 9:21 PM CST

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On many of them it does, but of course many in the book are species type, so he give the country of origin.
Name: Connie
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pardalinum
May 26, 2014 9:33 PM CST
Lynn, Thank You! !
Name: Greg Colucci
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gg5
May 26, 2014 9:44 PM CST
@valleylynn will you share what the differences are between Lemon Ball, Lemon curl, and Lemon Coral please!!
thanks!! I mix up Lemon ball and Lemon curl all the time...I think what I have is Lemon Ball Thumbs up
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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
May 27, 2014 9:21 PM CST

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Here is what I found out from the book and and Plant Delights Nursery, Inc.
Here is a quote from Plants Delights website: http://www.plantdelights.com/Sedum-mexicanum-Lemon-Ball-for-...
(aka: S. reflexum 'Lemon Coral') Sedum mexicanum 'Lemon Ball' is a great garden and container plant, which could explain why it's been illegally renamed so many times for marketing purposes. Sedum 'Lemon Ball' is a selection of Sedum mexicanum (not reflexum or rupestre) that is a brighter yellow and more heat-loving counterpart of the popular Sedum 'Angelina'. The soft, golden, rubbery, linear evergreen foliage is great for creating fun color combinations...and wait until the fireworks-like heads of bright yellow flowers top the patch in late spring! Expect a 6" tall x 3' wide mound in 3 years. What a gem in the full sun rock garden.
No wonder there has been so much confusion over this plant. Sad

Interesting way to tell if it is a S. rupestre, the bloomstalks are reflexed, bending over, until time to bloom. They they stand up straight.
Name: Greg Colucci
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gg5
May 27, 2014 9:25 PM CST
Thanks Lynn!! That is what I was thinking (that is wasn't the same as Angelina or the other rupestre's!) it has a slightly softer look to me than the rupestre's (Angelina, Sea Gold, Blue Spruce, Blue Bird etc)
Glad to have that all figured out!!! Thanks for doing the lookup work Lynn! Hurray! Sticking tongue out Group hug
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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
May 27, 2014 9:29 PM CST

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@zuzu is fixing the entries in the database for us. What would we do without her? Don't want to find out. Smiling
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gg5
May 27, 2014 11:03 PM CST
Thank you Zuzu! Thumbs up
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springcolor
May 27, 2014 11:23 PM CST
Interesting Good work Lynn
I will check my 2 out in the morning.
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Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
May 28, 2014 4:03 AM CST

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Looking forward to what you find in the morning Julia. Smiling

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