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Jun 20, 2014 9:31 AM CST
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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This is what I do. I go to the plant data base find my own pic, expand the pic, copy the BB code, then I click on the back space arrow in my broswer, which takes me back to the data base, and over on the left side in the blue margin you can select "add this plant to your list", or plant" in your list", click on the appropriate one, then paste the pic in the comment section, so neat.
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Jun 20, 2014 11:20 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Catherine
IN (Zone 5b)
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Hurray! Hurray! I did it! Hurray! Hurray! I added my own photo of "Fame" Thanks Seedfork!
Cat
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Jun 20, 2014 11:22 AM CST
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Region: Alabama
I think Dave has outdone himself with this new feature, it is just so great!
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Jun 20, 2014 11:24 AM CST
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Name: Catherine
IN (Zone 5b)
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Yes he has! I agree I am also easily amused, lol. Hilarious!
Cat
"Plant your own garden and decorate your own soul, instead of waiting for someone to bring you flowers." - Veronica A. Shoffstall
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Jun 20, 2014 1:58 PM CST
Name: Tina
Where the desert meets the sea (Zone 9b)
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OMG Seed!!! Thumbs up Thumbs up Thumbs up Thumbs up Thumbs up Thumbs up

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Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of old; seek what those of old sought. — Basho

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Jun 21, 2014 7:23 AM CST
Name: Ed Burton
East Central Wisconsin (Zone 5a)
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I use spiral notebooks for everything, especially seedlings
Registered plants are easier to find using a web search.
I then make picture files of each seedling, backed up on a separate hard drive, and again on a thumb drive.
I also post everything worthwhile on a Flickr account so I have the basic info for my seedlings out in cyber space for a worse case scenario
I also have Plant Step, but that takes some free time to get everything entered, and during the season free time is at a premium.

The spiral notebooks are the backbone of what I'm doing, every seedling cross is written down, and every seedling is given an ID tag at the same time.
If I cull a seedling the info gets crossed out, but left readable in case I need to check out what didn't work.
In my mine record keeping is pretty important for success, almost everyone buying plants or seeds wants to know the cross, and some refuse to buy if it's unknown.
I also try to bury an ID tag in the planting hole in case marker gets lost, this came about from experience ;~(
Ed Burton

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Jun 21, 2014 8:31 AM CST
Name: Tina
Where the desert meets the sea (Zone 9b)
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I agree Unless they invent a notepad computer that is water- and dirt-proof, the small garden notebook will remain my only way to make sure all daylily info makes it from the flower beds to the plant lists and garden grids. As soon as they do invent that water/dirt proof hand-held computer ... I'll have to figure out where else to tape my garden receipts, shipping tags, etc. Crying Sticking tongue out Shrug! Hilarious!
Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of old; seek what those of old sought. — Basho

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Jun 21, 2014 9:08 AM CST
Name: Glen Ingram
Macleay Is, Qld, Australia (Zone 12a)
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I am just rechecking mine and burying plastic knives next to the fans. It stuns me that some errors have crept in - nothing I couldn't solve but I thought my record keeping was fool-proof. Sigh.
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Jun 21, 2014 9:14 AM CST
Name: Ed Burton
East Central Wisconsin (Zone 5a)
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Glen
find some old venetian blinds, cut them into 3 inch strips, I use a paint pen to mark them.
Bury in hole.
I dug up a plant a few weeks ago that was planted 5 years ago, strip looked as new as the day I threw it in hole after I wiped off dirt.
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Jun 21, 2014 10:17 AM CST
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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I am constantly amazed at how hard it is to keep up with labels and tags. But, I do seem to move my plants around a lot more than I actually realized.
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Jun 21, 2014 10:50 AM CST
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Name: Catherine
IN (Zone 5b)
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I have several seedlings I am getting ready to plant. I am trying to figure out the best way to keep track of them. I am going to use a numbering system and have tags that you stick in the ground just hope that works. Going to keep a note book also but I hope the tags don't get lost of moved. Any suggestions?
Cat
"Plant your own garden and decorate your own soul, instead of waiting for someone to bring you flowers." - Veronica A. Shoffstall
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Jun 21, 2014 1:30 PM CST
Name: Becky
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)
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I've tried different things with spotty success. I now use the method many here use. I bury a tag (vertical blind marker using a paint pen) under each of my daylilies. And I also use the clear plastic picnic knives which has a number on it using the paint pen again. I can cross-reference the number to a photo and parentage name. (All mine are unnamed seedlings.) Everything else I tried had limited success. So far, none of the knives have been dug up by critters. Some folks have good success with mapping out their daylilies.... drawing each bed and exact location on a piece of paper of each daylily. Just don't lose your map!!! (I have too many daylilies to do the mapping.)
What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters, compared to what lies within us.
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Jun 21, 2014 1:59 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Catherine
IN (Zone 5b)
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Yes, I have been doing maps and using the plastic knives buried under each plant, guess that will be the best way to be sure nothing winds up in the NOID column.
Cat
"Plant your own garden and decorate your own soul, instead of waiting for someone to bring you flowers." - Veronica A. Shoffstall
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Jun 21, 2014 2:13 PM CST
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
Composter Daylilies Garden Photography Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Garden Ideas: Master Level Plant Identifier
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Region: Alabama
I just followed Jon's example and did a map of some daylilies in a separate bed, that worked great.
But for the daylilies that are planted in beds with other plants, I don't find mapping to be nearly as efficient or accurate. I keep telling myself I need to bury tags next to the plants, but I have not won the argument yet.
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Jun 21, 2014 2:41 PM CST
Name: Mary
My little patch of paradise (Zone 7b)
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beckygardener said:Great thread topic! Lots of wonderful ideas and advice. I currently use Plantstep software. I would probably like Excel better for the sorting option, but would need to take an online class to learn how to use all the options in Excel.


This has probably already been said, but you can export your PlantStep information to an Excel spreadsheet. I do that, and then rename the spreadsheet, and then you can sort it/rearrange it to your heart's content. I did that to plan how I was going to plant my beds. Thumbs up
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Jun 21, 2014 3:07 PM CST
Name: Becky
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)
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Mary - Good to know! Thank you. Can I still edit the info if I do the transfer from Plant Step to Excel?

Then .... I just have to figure out how to use Excel. LOL! I do like the idea of sorting by any category using Excel. I was thinking about replanting all my garden beds by bloom color. Reds in one bed, oranges/peach in another bed, yellows in yet another area, etc. That will be a lot of digging though. LOL! Over 300 daylilies and counting, so maybe not such a good idea afterall. A number of mine have produced a second fan or even third fan just in the past 4-5 months. All were single fans when I transplanted them during the late Winter/Early Spring, so I will have to divide them soon enough anyway....
What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters, compared to what lies within us.
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Jun 21, 2014 4:11 PM CST
Name: Cheryl
Western WA (Zone 8b)
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I use PlantStep and labels made out of Vinyl blinds as others do, I use a P-touch label to stick onto the blinds. Has been the first year using this system. I have only had Plantstep for less than a month and am still cataloging, slow as a snail for having less daylilys than most lol.
A True gardener will purchase a thousand plants before thinking of where to put them :P
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Jun 21, 2014 5:22 PM CST
Name: Marilyn, aka "Poly"
South San Francisco Bay Area (Zone 9b)
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As with Becky, over the years I have tried different things.

For labeling the plants themselves, I have found that plastic labels break or are carried off by critters; even intact, the writing tends to fade. Engraved labels add up in cost, and can snap off the metal stakes and need replacement. Hand-embossed wire-on tags look potentially unbeatable (my roses each have one), but then you have to stoop close to read them. The search continues. (I am not into pencil, or those tape things that you punch the name out on.)

For notes and records, I have to confess that I got off to a very shaky start; I didn't immediately make my own plant label, and I didn't immediately record plant purchases. Because of those two things, to this day I have one daylily here which (memory tells me, and I am 99.9% sure) is probably 'Little Rainbow' - yet I cannot be 100% certain. (I know that I bought it from one garden/nursery or another on a Regional Tour. I have almost zero interest in miniature daylilies, and (with one other exception) the only reason I would have for buying one would be because there was something of special interest about it. I recall not long previously having read about polychrome daylilies, and 'Little Rainbow' in particular. I have a vaguer memory that I was excited to see 'Little Rainbow' in that garden/nursery and pounced on it. Yet, I cannot be 100% sure.)

Is she, or isn't she? ('Little Rainbow', that is.)
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From such mistakes I have learned the necessity of relabeling promptly (I still have lapses on that - and pay for such lapses), and keeping purchase records.

For seedling record keeping, I used to write everything down in one of those blank journals. After I lost one journal, and another came to grief (soaked with water, writing faded), I decided I had better keep my seedling records on the computer. (Offline backups are your friends.)

(The plastic labels and the paper journals are part of the reason why some of the seedlings here are of uncertain heritage.)

I use both MS-Word and Excel to keep records on both the registered cultivars and the seedlings. MS-Word files allow for keeping extensive detailed notes such as hybridizer's hype (er, description), my personal observations, and pictures of the blooms and/or plants. I break the cultivars down alphabetically, and have several cultivar CULTDATA-i (where i = A, B, C, etc.) files which contain detailed information on each cultivar with a name starting with that letter, with one or two pictures each. (I have lots more pictures kept under a PIX directory.) If I want to review what the hybridizer said, or what garden/nursery I got the plant from (and when), or my own general notes on the plant (rusty, CMO, periods of rebloom, whatever) then I go look at that file.

Seedling observations go into different files, by the year of the observation. Eventually, if a seedling stays around long enough, it might get its own dedicated file. (I have to do a better job on that; I have the seedling pix organized well enough. Thus far, though, there are no seedlings here which I feel are introduction worthy Sad - though I do have some that I like enough that they have been here for several years.)

I fear that I have yet to find an acceptable way of (electronically) easily making a garden map. Right now I have MS-WORD files listing the identities of plants (daylilies or otherwise) by bed, but that is not a map. Instead, I have a pathetic text listing along the lines of "left to right (west to east): lantana, Heuchera 'Strawberry Candy', 'Hip to Be Square', 'Polly Wolly Doodle', Rosa 'Carefree Wonder', 'Osterized', 'Magical Indeed'...".

Excel is okay for summarizing data (nursery source, bloom size, scape height, season, etc.), but is especially good for managing plant purchase lists and recording bloom time periods. For plant purchases, the garden or nursery goes in one column, the plants on order (or received) go in another column underneath/beside that name, and things like date ordered, cost, brief plant description go in other columns. Plants on order but not yet received are in one color text; plants received but not yet potted/planted are a second color; plants finally planted out are in blue (pots) or black (ground).

(The downside of using Excel to track plant purchases is that - if you make that mistake - it relentlessly adds up the ever increasing total cost for you. Just to let you know.)

For recording the bloom period, I break the month up into 1/4 month periods; from 1-7, 8-15, 16-23, 24-end, and put a * or X in the column for that quarter-month if the daylily was in bloom. (Thus far I have only bothered recording daylily bloom times.) It makes for a very readable record, which makes it easy to compare the length and times of bloom for different cultivars or seedlings. (If more information is needed, I can put the date of FFO or LFO in the respective columns when bloom begins or ends.)

I did at one point buy one plant program - I cannot tell you now what it is/was (I never reloaded it during the last computer upgrade), but I found it cumbersome and obnoxious to use.

Slowly, the records improve...

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Jun 21, 2014 5:24 PM CST
Name: Marilyn, aka "Poly"
South San Francisco Bay Area (Zone 9b)
"The mountains are calling..."
Region: California Daylilies Irises Vegetable Grower Moon Gardener Dog Lover
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Oh... I see that I forgot to mention that now I have the excellent database tools here, for yet more record keeping. Thumbs up
Evaluating an iris seedling, hopefully for rebloom
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Jun 24, 2014 9:17 PM CST
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Name: Catherine
IN (Zone 5b)
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Well, I did do a seedling spreadsheet in Google Drive today. It was actually very easy! A lot easier than Excel!!
Cat
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