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Jun 5, 2014 5:28 AM CST
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Name: Mark
South Paris, Maine (Zone 5a)
Hi All, Crazy busy at my little succulent nursery here in Maine. I plan to sell semps and jovi's at an organic growers fair in the fall and am trying to put some good growth on my plants without the slow release fertilizer I had been using. I started them off with bone meal. Any input to when to fertilize them again or with what, would be helpful. Thanks!
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Jun 6, 2014 1:06 AM CST
Name: Bev
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
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Could you use a seaweed based fertilizer or one with bat guano?
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Jun 6, 2014 10:17 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Mark
South Paris, Maine (Zone 5a)
I will try seaweed as I have a bit of it leftover from veggie seedlings. Thanks Bev.
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Jun 6, 2014 11:29 AM CST
Name: Bev
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
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Good luck! and if you have time, any chance of pics of the big mature "piggy" semps going "off to market" in the fall? Smiling
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Jun 6, 2014 2:41 PM CST
Name: J.C. S.
Kansas (Zone 6b)
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What are "piggy" semps?

Edit: or is it just a farming reference, as in "pigs going to market"?
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Jun 6, 2014 4:14 PM CST
Name: Bev
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
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JC, that's why I used the quote marks to mean the farming reference which you figured out in under 2 minutes... Hurray!
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Jun 6, 2014 4:24 PM CST
Name: J.C. S.
Kansas (Zone 6b)
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Hehe, yeah I figured that was probably what you meant a few seconds after I hit "Finished" on the original post. *Blush*
I left it just in case there was something I could learn. Sticking tongue out
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Jun 6, 2014 7:39 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Mark
South Paris, Maine (Zone 5a)
I may try before and after shots. Will try feeding them with different things to test the outcome. All good ideas. we'll see if I follow through.
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Jun 7, 2014 8:09 AM CST
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Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
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I would love to see the results from you testing Mark.
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Jun 7, 2014 6:43 PM CST
Name: J.C. S.
Kansas (Zone 6b)
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I would be very interested to see testing results too! Thumbs up
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Oct 26, 2017 9:11 AM CST
Name: Karen
New Mexico (Zone 8a)
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@markb. I'm a semp newbie and reviving this thread. I'd love to hear what you know now about growing semps with fertilizers.
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Oct 27, 2017 12:52 PM CST
Name: Christie
Central Ohio 43016 (Zone 6a)
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I did put a mixture of old straw and rabbit droppings on mine - got it from a guy who raised rabbits. It smelled rather bad for couple of days but my semps and roses seemed to like it.
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Oct 27, 2017 2:40 PM CST
Name: Bev
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
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Karen, There was a trend toward using the organics (seaweed, bat guano, etc) when I was living in NM and I got introduced to using seaweed. Wanting to grow slow-growing succulents at the time, I thought liquid seaweed being low in N-P-P would be a good try for my slow-growing sempervivums. I was also told that the liquid seaweed could also be used a s foliar spray.
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Oct 27, 2017 2:46 PM CST
Name: Karen
New Mexico (Zone 8a)
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Thanks, Bev. I look into getting some. Have you used the Bonide horticultural spray on your semps? It is supposed to work for mealies, aphids, whiteflies, etc. I got it mostly for the other things in the greenhouse, but think it might work on the last of the mealies I'm trying to eradicate. I couldn't throw the plants out.
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Oct 27, 2017 3:31 PM CST
Name: Bev
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
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I'm not a fan of insect sprays. I went out and got the Bonide Systemic House Plant Insect Control Granules because I found these selling points more to my liking:
Systemic houseplant insect granular
Convenient, ready-to-use granules provide effective, long lasting insect control for 8 weeks
Excellent indoor no odor, no spray, no mess formula

In regards to my handling mealies, in addition to my previous post of using Q-tips and alcohol I gauge an infestation as either manageable or not manageable. I throw the plant out when it's the second and I try to be preventative when I pot up new plants by using the above product when there might or might not be an infestation.
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Oct 27, 2017 5:24 PM CST
Name: Karen
New Mexico (Zone 8a)
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I went with the plain horticultural spray. It's mostly mineral oil. I was afraid the systemic would kill the earthworms living in my pots and raised beds.
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Oct 27, 2017 5:26 PM CST
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Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
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You do have to be careful that the bees don't have access to the blooms.
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Oct 27, 2017 5:33 PM CST
Name: Karen
New Mexico (Zone 8a)
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It said to avoid spraying blooms for sure. We need our bees.
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Oct 27, 2017 5:42 PM CST
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Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
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It's the systemic treatments that I was referring to. Anything insect that eats any part of the plant would be killed. It even travels into the nectar and pollen. That's why I don't use
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Oct 27, 2017 5:45 PM CST
Name: Karen
New Mexico (Zone 8a)
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Yes, that is true. I was worried about my worms, but the other pollinators would be killed too.
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