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Name: Char
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Char
Jun 12, 2014 4:21 PM CST
I'd like to add this image to the database. The plant is growing under hemlocks on the edge of my property in zone 4, Vermont and was blooming last week.


Name: Greene
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greene
Jun 12, 2014 4:47 PM CST
Look at Trientalis borealis or related plants. I'm only guessing.
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Ursula
Jun 12, 2014 5:30 PM CST
I thought the same.
Name: Char
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Char
Jun 12, 2014 6:06 PM CST
Thanks greene! That certainly looks like it. Thumbs up
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greene
Jun 12, 2014 6:45 PM CST
http://www.environment.fhwa.dot.gov/ecosystems/vegmgmt_rd_vt...
has lists of your Vermont state plants including
Trientalis borealis ssp. borealis (starflower)
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Name: Char
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Char
Jun 13, 2014 5:09 AM CST
So do you think I should move the image from Trientalis borealis to Trientalis borealis ssp. borealis? The information/images I found on these sites last night show images as Trientalis borealis.

http://www.fs.fed.us/wildflowers/plant-of-the-week/trientali...

http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20q?search=Trientalis+boreali...
Name: Greene
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greene
Jun 13, 2014 5:33 AM CST
I offered links to help you do the research. You have the actual plant; all we have is the photo. You can research and compare the fine points of detail to see exactly which plant you have. I would guess the photo is fine where it is unless and until you find some detail which would cause you to move it.

It is such a pretty little plant and you are lucky to have it. Thumbs up
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purpleinopp
Jun 13, 2014 8:36 AM CST
Char said:So do you think I should move the image from Trientalis borealis to Trientalis borealis ssp. borealis?


"ssp." = subspecies. Unless you are sure of that distinction, moving it would be incorrect. Like a Venn diagram, all plants would fit in the first, not all in the latter.

What a cute little plant, BTW!

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Name: Kent Pfeiffer
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KentPfeiffer
Jun 13, 2014 8:37 AM CST

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Char said:So do you think I should move the image from Trientalis borealis to Trientalis borealis ssp. borealis? The information/images I found on these sites last night show images as Trientalis borealis.



It's questionable if Trientalis borealis subsp. borealis is even a valid name. According to the Catalog of Life, there is a single species (Trientalis borealis) with two subspecies (Trientalis borealis subsp. borealis and Trientalis borealis subsp. latifolia) According to ITIS, there are two separate species (Trientalis borealis and Trientalis latifolia).

Right now the ATP database is sort of in between the two, and we'll have to dig into it a bit more to figure out whether to follow ITIS or the CoL. You should leave your picture where it is as it's possible the Trientalis borealis subsp. borealis entry will be going away. And, either way, the picture is appropriate where it currently sits.



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Jun 13, 2014 8:52 AM CST
Investigative attention like that is why (well, one of many reasons why) I love this site!
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Name: Char
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Char
Jun 13, 2014 1:39 PM CST
Thank you for all the information. While searching last night I found conflicting information on several sites similar to what you have posted Kent. Some sites mentioned the ssp. but never went any further in making a distinction between the species and ssp. Happy to know I put the image in the right spot for now. I tip my hat to you.

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