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Jun 19, 2014 5:47 PM CST
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Name: tk
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Anyone know what these vines are growing wild in Texas?
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Jun 20, 2014 8:20 AM CST
Name: Tiffany purpleinopp
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The second one is a berry vine of some type.

Do you see any flowers on the first? They may be hidden under the foliage. Looking for them in the morning is usually the best time, in case it's an Ipomoea.
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Jun 20, 2014 11:50 AM CST
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No flowers on first vine. Could be a biennial, this is first year

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The second vine I've always thought was a berry vine, but it never blooms, only gets about 12" around. So, doesn't behave like a berry. I've had it in the same spots 8 years, and it comes back every spring
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Jun 20, 2014 1:03 PM CST
Name: Elaine
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I'd bet on the first one being a morning glory with those heart shaped leaves.

You will see flowers soon if you don't yank it.
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Jun 20, 2014 3:55 PM CST
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Jun 20, 2014 4:04 PM CST
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I heard you taking about dewberries on a podcast @dave. Aren't I supposed to get some berries? I tried moving the plants to a better berry site 2 years ago, and they died.
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Jun 20, 2014 4:15 PM CST
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I added more photos to the entry. Here you can see the stem with the red thorns:



I don't know why you're not getting berries. For us, they grow wild all over the place and the berries are ripe very early in the season, fully a month before the blackberries.
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Jun 20, 2014 4:24 PM CST
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I don't have any success with dewberries or blackberries. My neighbor (500' away) has no problem with them. So, I've switched to boysenberries. Those do very well in my yard, and seem to double the amount of berries each year.
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Jun 20, 2014 5:29 PM CST
Name: stone
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Don't Yank the first one!

It's a matelea of some sort...
They're rare...

And they're really neat!
https://www.google.com/search?...
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Jun 20, 2014 7:12 PM CST
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If you're having good luck with Boysenberries than I'd say to forget about trying for the dewberries. They are really kind of a junk plant. Nice to have bonus berries early in the spring but they never amount to a lot. The domestic blackberries is where the real action is. Thumbs up
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Jun 20, 2014 7:51 PM CST
Name: Jay
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dave, just curious how you determined it was Rubus trivialis. There are about 16 species of Rubus in Texas and I have never been able to find a good key to identifying them.
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Jun 21, 2014 3:01 AM CST
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Milkweeds of Texas and Mexico .. Matelea

http://www.texasento.net/Ascle...

http://luirig.altervista.org/f...

1) Matelea biflora (Raf.) Woodson

2) Matelea brevicoronata (B.L. Rob.) Woodson

3) Matelea carolinensis (Jacq.) Woodson

4) Matelea cynanchoides (Engelm.) Woodson

5) Matelea decipiens (Alexander) Woodson

6) Matelea edwardsensis Correll

7) Matelea gonocarpos (Walter) Shinners

8) Matelea parviflora (Torr.) Woodson

9) Matelea parvifolia (Torr.) Woodson

10) Matelea producta (Torr.) Woodson

11) Matelea radiata Correll

12) Matelea reticulata (Engelm. ex A. Gray) Woodson

13) Matelea sagittifolia (A. Gray) Woodson

14) Matelea texensis Correll

15) Matelea woodsonii Shinners
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Jun 21, 2014 11:22 AM CST
Name: Tiffany purpleinopp
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The berry vines that grow wild around here make fruit on 2nd year vines. You have to have a large bramble to harvest much of them.
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Jun 21, 2014 11:47 AM CST
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Name: tk
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Thanks everyone. I'll ignore the dewberry, and take care of the milkweed vine. Hopefully, I'll get some interesting flowers
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Jun 21, 2014 5:51 PM CST
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Horntoad said:dave, just curious how you determined it was Rubus trivialis. There are about 16 species of Rubus in Texas and I have never been able to find a good key to identifying them.


The red stems with thousands of little tiny hairs were the key I used to determine this was R. trivialis.

Then I checked it against the photos here:

http://www.wildflower.org/plan...

But now that you've asked, doubt is starting to creep in.
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