Plant ID forum: weed or not a weed?

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Name: Allison
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Onewish1
Jun 20, 2014 5:33 AM CST
don't think I would have planted something this close to the other plants

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Name: Greene
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greene
Jun 20, 2014 8:32 AM CST
This is a guess: Cardiospermum grandiflorum
Sunset Zone 28, AHS Heat Zone 9, USDA zone 8b~~"Leaf of Faith"
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JRsbugs
Jun 20, 2014 8:56 AM CST
greene said:This is a guess: Cardiospermum grandiflorum


That looks like a good guess!

Are the stems ribbed?

http://www.iewf.org/weedid/Cardiospermum_grandiflorum.htm
Name: Lori
Calgary, Alberta, Canada
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growitall
Jun 20, 2014 11:44 AM CST
I see from USDA Plants that Cardiospermum halicacabum, an invasive vine, is naturalized in New Jersey. Not sure it fits though?
http://www.google.ca/search?q=Cardiospermum+halicacabum&clie...

More photos of Cardiospermum grandiflorum:
http://www.google.ca/search?q=cardiospermum+grandiflorum&cli...

I'm gonna suggest a hardy perennial, maybe Actaea cordifolia?
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JRsbugs
Jun 20, 2014 12:10 PM CST
They are so similar!

Actaea pachypoda is similar too, the leaves look to vary ..

https://gobotany.newenglandwild.org/species/actaea/pachypoda...

Actaea rubra ..

https://gobotany.newenglandwild.org/species/actaea/rubra/

There is a key ..

https://gobotany.newenglandwild.org/search/?q=actaea


1) Actaea x ludovici B. Boivin

2) Actaea pachypoda Elliot

3) Actaea racemosa L.

4) Actaea racemosa L. var. racemosa

5) Actaea rubra (Aiton) Willd.

6) Actaea rubra (Aiton) Willd. ssp. rubra

http://luirig.altervista.org/flora/taxa/north-america.php?st...
Name: Greene
Savannah, GA (Sunset 28) (Zone 8b)
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greene
Jun 20, 2014 2:00 PM CST
Can we wait until it makes flowers? Looks like this could be an interesting plant.
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Name: Allison
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Onewish1
Jun 20, 2014 6:11 PM CST
Looks a little ribby. . Stripped green and purple

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Name: Allison
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Onewish1
Jun 20, 2014 6:19 PM CST
I left it for 2 weeks now just wondering.. not one of my typical weeds.. but I have been to plant swaps up in New England.. and PA .. I know the plants that are sort of close came from PA running tiarella.. and a hardy begonia
Name: Rick R.
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Leftwood
Jun 20, 2014 9:12 PM CST
Both Cardiospermum and Actaea have alternate leaf arrangement. Your "weed" is opposite leaf arrangement.
Don't know what it might be.
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growitall
Jun 20, 2014 10:16 PM CST
Well, sure, if you're going to point out "facts"... Big Grin Big Grin
Thanks, Rick! I'll try to save that in the memory banks, such as they are these days. Smiling
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JRsbugs
Jun 21, 2014 2:55 AM CST
Leftwood said:Both Cardiospermum and Actaea have alternate leaf arrangement. Your "weed" is opposite leaf arrangement.
Don't know what it might be.


Are you sure you haven't got that the wrong way around for Actaea Rick?

https://gobotany.newenglandwild.org/species/actaea/pachypoda...

Tiarella was mentioned but it doesn't appear to have ridged stems..

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Tiarella+stems&tbm=isch&im...



Name: Allison
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Onewish1
Jun 21, 2014 3:10 AM CST
it's not the Tiarella.. for sure.. it's pretty low to the ground.. the weed is close to 2 foot.. but might have hitchhiked with one of the other plants
Name: Donald
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needrain
Jun 21, 2014 6:29 AM CST
You know it's not poison ivy? In the photo it looks close enough that I'd be cautious.
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Name: stone
near Macon Georgia (USA) (Zone 8a)
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stone
Jun 21, 2014 6:39 AM CST
I kinda like it for Clematis virginiana
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JRsbugs
Jun 21, 2014 7:31 AM CST
Clematis virginiana has ribbed stems! It does look like it's shooting off like a climber.

https://gobotany.newenglandwild.org/species/clematis/virgini...
Name: Lori
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growitall
Jun 21, 2014 9:48 AM CST
Great photos at that site. There seems to be stipules at the leaf junctions shown on one photo (for Clematis virginiana, that is) - not seeing that on the plant in question. Clematis certainly seems likely.

By the way, the photos of the plant in question show a plant marker that I can't read... nothing to do with this plant, I take it?
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Name: Greene
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greene
Jun 21, 2014 10:01 AM CST
I noticed that also but thought it was part of the irrigation system. Is it a plant label?
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Name: Lori
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growitall
Jun 21, 2014 10:04 AM CST
It's a two-prong anodized aluminum plant marker with a yellow label, and is pulled out of the ground and lying sideways.
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JRsbugs
Jun 21, 2014 10:06 AM CST
I think the plant label says Iris Jumping.
Name: Lori
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growitall
Jun 21, 2014 10:08 AM CST
Oh, right, I thought I could make out "Iris", too.
Would stipules only occur at the leaf junctions near the flower heads? I would imagine they'd be at all leaf junctions?

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