Plant ID forum: Brazilian plant or shrub with cattail-like flowers

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Name: Myriam
Ghent, Belgium (Zone 8a)
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bonitin
Jun 21, 2014 1:56 AM CST
I often met this quite tall plant in the Atlantic rainforest.
I'm not sure in what family to search..
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Not sure if this is the same plant with the flowers standing up, but at least it looks related.
Piper
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Name: Myriam
Ghent, Belgium (Zone 8a)
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bonitin
Jun 21, 2014 2:02 AM CST
I noticed now that the 4th and 5th picture must be another species in the family as the leaves look more smooth!
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
Near Lincoln UK
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JRsbugs
Jun 21, 2014 4:29 AM CST
It seems to be Heliotropium or something in the same family Myriam, the first plant that is..

http://fm2.fieldmuseum.org/plantguides/view.asp?chkbox=1583

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Heliotropium+angiospermum&...

http://www.ufrgs.br/fitoecologia/florars/open_sp.php?img=763...

Varronia?

https://www.fmcagricola.com.br/portal/manuais/infestantes_hf...

http://plantgenera.org/illustration.php?id_illustration=1205...



Name: stone
near Macon Georgia (USA) (Zone 8a)
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stone
Jun 21, 2014 6:19 AM CST
Possibly Piper aduncum?
http://www.natureloveyou.sg/Piper%20aduncum/Main.html
Or something else from the Piperaceae family...
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Name: Myriam
Ghent, Belgium (Zone 8a)
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bonitin
Jun 21, 2014 7:42 AM CST
Thanks Janet! But I don't think it is in the family (Boraginaceae) of a Heliotropium, it doesn't feel right, the flowers on the plants I met never seem to open like in on those links, they actually look and behave like from an Anthurium, though of course that cannot be!

I'm sure it looks like a Piper species, Stone, thank you!!
I'll have to check the 'Flora do Brasil' which species grow there! Smiling
Name: Myriam
Ghent, Belgium (Zone 8a)
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bonitin
Jun 21, 2014 7:43 AM CST
Ughhhh, 91 species Piper!!!! Blinking Hilarious!
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
Near Lincoln UK
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JRsbugs
Jun 21, 2014 7:44 AM CST
Piper aduncum does look correct! There's a list of Piper to go through ..

http://reflora.jbrj.gov.br/jabot/listaBrasil/ConsultaPublica...

The last photo looks like Piper amplum .. (no, the leaf venation doesn't match!)

https://sites.google.com/site/florasbs/piperaceae/piper-sp-5

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Name: Myriam
Ghent, Belgium (Zone 8a)
Charter ATP Member Ferns Native Plants and Wildflowers Cat Lover Birds Bee Lover
Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Frogs and Toads Plant Identifier
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bonitin
Jun 21, 2014 9:20 AM CST
Piper aduncum does look correct, Janet for the first plant! Thumbs up
I'll keep the others as Piper species.. Rolling my eyes.

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