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Name: Greene
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greene
Jun 23, 2014 9:05 AM CST
Forgive me if this duplicates any previous request.

There are options to narrow the search in the Database by color, height, genus, etc.
Would it be possible to include an option to 'search only plants with images'?

Additionally, could we add a 'search plants with no image' as that might encourage people to add images where they are needed/missing. Thank You!
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valleylynn
Jun 26, 2014 10:10 AM CST
I love those ideas. Maybe even a search for plants that don't have any data information filled in.
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Marilyn
Jul 6, 2014 3:47 PM CST
I agree Great ideas! Thumbs up
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Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
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flaflwrgrl
Jul 14, 2014 5:37 PM CST
I agree
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Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Jul 14, 2014 6:11 PM CST

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I'm afraid that a search for plants with no images and for plants with no data might run into the hundreds of thousands. At this moment, there are 637,994 plants in the database (with more being added each day) and 249,061 images. We know that many plants have multiple images, but even if they didn't, that would still be a list of close to 400,000.

Here's a good way to start: Look at your own plant lists and notice the plants that have no images attached. Take pictures of all of your plants. Maybe you're conscientious enough to have done this already, but I have dozens of plants on my list with no images. *Blush*

You could also "adopt a genus." Some members have done this and have filled in the data for each entry in the genus. This could be a good project for the cold and rainy season when you're stuck indoors.
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Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
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flaflwrgrl
Jul 14, 2014 6:30 PM CST
Adopt a genus sounds like a good idea. Thumbs up

Well, I'm off to research a plant I want to know about & there is no data in the db.
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Name: Rick Corey
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RickCorey
Jul 14, 2014 7:07 PM CST
"Adopt a genus", or "adopt a common name" is a great way to learn both specifics and generalities about that genus. While you search the Internet for info, you get a feel for what the new trends are.

And it's a good way to earn acorns for a few minutes between meetings or while waiting for something!

I've only asked other hobbyists if I could use their photos, but if you do that with online vendors, you might make some friends in green places.
Name: Greene
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greene
Jul 14, 2014 7:31 PM CST
My goal when I asked this in the first place was to improve the database. We have so many plants with no images that it would be nice if someone would make the effort to add some pictures. The same for plant data; too many plants with no data at all. I make good use of my free time to make additions for plants that I have studied/researched, sometimes working until 4am.

On a totally different site (not plant related) anyone can search listed cemeteries and can narrow the search for memorials:
- added in the last 24 hours
- added in the last 7, 30 or 90 days
we can also specify:
- memorials with photos
- memorials without photos
That site has over 116 (one hundred and sixteen) million memorials listed. I just figured if it was possible on that site that it might be possible here as well.

Yes, we would probably first have to select which genus we are searching here on ATP, or may have no narrow by cultivar for some that have numerous entries (on the cemetery site we need to specify which cemetery and in the case of large cemeteries we need to specify the first two letters of the surname) before we can hit the magic 'easy button' to narrow the search by photo or data, but the technology exists.

Thank you for your time.
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Calif_Sue
Jul 15, 2014 8:32 AM CST

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greene said:We have so many plants with no images that it would be nice if someone would make the effort to add some pictures. The same for plant data; too many plants with no data at all. I make good use of my free time to make additions for plants that I have studied/researched, sometimes working until 4am.


Not sure if you have seen the database stats lately but we have quite a few folks who really have made huge use of their free time here! http://garden.org/plants/stats/
Just imagine how far we could be if only 10% more members also take the time to contribute data details and photos.

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Name: Greene
Savannah, GA (Sunset 28) (Zone 8b)
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greene
Jul 15, 2014 9:38 AM CST
@Calif_Sue said: "quite a few folks who really have made HUGE use of their free time here!"

I know you did not direct that at me personally Whistling . Yes, I did check the stats but don't see my name on the abbreviated lists. It would be nice if everyone's contribution were recognized and not just those who have made a certain quota. But, oh well. Shrug!

I fully realize that some people have more available time than others, I also realize that some people are a bit competetive (not in a negative way) and like to see big numbers next to their name...unless they are running a marathon in which case smaller numbers are better. Rolling on the floor laughing

I've only been here a short time but I have made contributions according to my limited ability, my knowledge and my available free time, thank you.
Here are my numbers:
Plant Database Contributions:
50 images
10 comments
14 data proposals
13 miscellaneous proposals

There are 11,770 members here on ATP and 1,467 ideas contributed... Rolling my eyes. I have submitted 10 ideas/articles so my percentage is pretty good on that area of ATP...each according to his ability...

I plan to continue to contribute and expect everyone else will do the same as they are able; was only asking if something was possible here on ATP - to search for plants with images or without images. Four members seemed to like the idea; @valleylynn chimed in to suggest adding 'plants with no data'.

When @dave finds some free time maybe he will give it some thought. I always wonder how anyone with 90 acres to tend has even a moment of free time! Hilarious!
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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Jul 15, 2014 1:42 PM CST
Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Free time is almost unheard of at this time of year on a farm.
But I really do like the idea of being able to do a search for entries that don't have any information filled in. It is relatively easy to find entries with no photo. As you scroll down a page it is immediately evident which ones don't have photos.
Not so with information for the entry. You have to click on each entry, which is added time and steps.
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Name: Rick Corey
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Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
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RickCorey
Jul 15, 2014 1:57 PM CST
I shouldn't try to speak for Dave, but here's my guess.

If one or more people said they were interested in and committed to putting in time on some particular genus or species or common-name-plant, he would probably be able to run a specialized search and produce a list of plants within that genus that had no data details.

Or at least add that to his ATP To-Do list which I think always has multiple items, or perhaps multiple pages.

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