Plant ID forum: Noisettia orchidiflora

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Name: Myriam
Ghent, Belgium (Zone 8a)
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bonitin
Jun 23, 2014 1:04 PM CST
This plant was not in a good state when I met it, the top part was broken, the leaves badly damaged by insects and it was at the end of its blooming.. Still I would love to know what it is, I had no success so far. I guess its original height was around 70-80cm
The location is the Atlantic rainforest in the Rio de Janeiro state and the plant was growing in shade under a dense tree canopy.
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Name: Lin
Florida (Zone 9b)
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plantladylin
Jun 23, 2014 2:04 PM CST
My first thought was possibly Besleria of some sort but I really don't know. http://sura.ots.ac.cr/local/florula4/find_sp3.php?key_specie...
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Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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JRsbugs
Jun 23, 2014 3:54 PM CST
I'm struggling to find a family for it Myriam!

I thought maybe Solanaceae, but nothing seems to fit.

Notice the flowers have a spur.
Name: Myriam
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bonitin
Jun 23, 2014 11:32 PM CST
Thanks Lin and Janet!
It is some time ago I did an intensive search and I think I also checked Solanaceae besides Balsaminaceae and Ranunculaceae ,which of of the species members also have spurs.
I think we better give up on that one! Rolling my eyes.
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Name: Ron
Naples, Florida (Zone 10a)
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rattlebox
Jun 24, 2014 7:03 AM CST
Probably a good thing I wasn't there. I'm afraid a couple of those larger seed pods might have accidentally slipped into my socks as I passed by.

I hate when that happens.
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Name: Myriam
Ghent, Belgium (Zone 8a)
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bonitin
Jun 24, 2014 10:19 AM CST
I would not have minded that a couple of seeds 'accidentally' ended up (not in my socks, too hot there wearing them! ) but in my pocket. Hilarious! unfortunately there wasn't any ripe seed pods.. Rolling my eyes.
I could see the potential beauty the plant has, when in a better state than when I found it.
Name: Ron
Naples, Florida (Zone 10a)
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rattlebox
Jun 24, 2014 5:34 PM CST
Certainly worthy of a spot in a rare and unusual collection.

And from the upward pointing spurs, I would guess hummingbird pollinated. A plus in American gardens.
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Name: Myriam
Ghent, Belgium (Zone 8a)
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bonitin
Jun 25, 2014 12:59 AM CST
I guess you're right Ron, there were plenty of hummingbirds feasting on all those exotic beauties.
Name: Myriam
Ghent, Belgium (Zone 8a)
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bonitin
May 16, 2015 1:19 AM CST
Got it! Hurray!
It is Noisettia orchidiflora in the Violaceae, hence the spurs on the flowers!
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Name: Janet Super Sleuth
Near Lincoln UK
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JRsbugs
May 16, 2015 5:08 AM CST
Hurray! Thumbs up I tip my hat to you.

A good point to remember, but it isn't always a clue. The other species in Violaceae (Hybanthus parviflorus) on Flora de Santa Catarina doesn't have spurs and is totally different!
Name: Myriam
Ghent, Belgium (Zone 8a)
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bonitin
May 16, 2015 5:22 AM CST
Thanks Janet! Smiling i got it by accident, just browsing through the different families, in the hope I'll meet one I have! Hilarious! It is time-consuming for sure, but i'm also learning a lot!

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