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Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
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flaflwrgrl
Jul 11, 2014 11:06 AM CST
I am needing some shrubs for a privacy screen that need to be evergreen, drought tolerant, get a min. of 6' high, and take SHADE.

Can you guys give me any suggestions?

Thanks!
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Name: Cheryl
Kingwood, Texas (Zone 9a)
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ShadyGreenThumb
Jul 11, 2014 12:16 PM CST
You aren't asking for to much are you? lol Let me think on this...I have loropetalum/Chinese Fringe that grows fast but because it is in the shade, it does not flower. It's still pretty. But it needs kits of pruning to keep it compact while growing. weird that you have to cut it to make it tall...like trimming long hair to make it longer.ha! I'll keep thinking.
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Name: Tara
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terrafirma
Jul 11, 2014 12:20 PM CST
The first that come to my mind are varieties of Viburnum, or Ligustrum.

Edit to add...Oh, shade, hmmm.

Still thinking...
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Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
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flaflwrgrl
Jul 11, 2014 12:22 PM CST
Thanks Cheryl. I was wondering about the loropetalum. Some came with the place as hedges & are in full sun but I wondered as I have seen them in partial shade doing well around town. Blooming would be nice but the screening is the most important part at this point. Of course, any benefit to insects, birds or wildlife is a bonus!
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Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
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flaflwrgrl
Jul 11, 2014 12:23 PM CST
Thanks Tara!

Okay, so loropetalum, viburnum & ligustrum so far. Thumbs up What about wax myrtle? Will it be too loose in shade or will it get dense enough?
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Name: Tara
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terrafirma
Jul 11, 2014 12:29 PM CST
How heavy is the shade? Heavy or partial/dappled?
Name: Cheryl
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ShadyGreenThumb
Jul 11, 2014 12:43 PM CST
It's the shade that is the problem. Trust me I know all about that problem! I love my neighbors Wax Myrtle tree! But it gets a fair amount of Sun.
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terrafirma
Jul 11, 2014 12:50 PM CST
I've seen some Podocarpus that seem to be doing fairly well in some shade, but I do agree...The amount of shade could be the major factor.
Name: Cheryl
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ShadyGreenThumb
Jul 11, 2014 12:53 PM CST
Non spreading bamboo?
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flaflwrgrl
Jul 11, 2014 2:17 PM CST
I'll take some pictures. Shade, not even dappled but not really dark either. Photos! I will get some photos.
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Name: Cheryl
Kingwood, Texas (Zone 9a)
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ShadyGreenThumb
Jul 11, 2014 4:45 PM CST
Pictures, yes, plus driving around your neighborhoods to see what grows well in shade also helps give you good hints.
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Name: Cheryl
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ShadyGreenThumb
Jul 11, 2014 4:46 PM CST
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Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
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flaflwrgrl
Jul 11, 2014 5:36 PM CST
I would rather save the bamboo as a last resort. I know the rate of speed of growth of the loropetalum & viburnum & am somewhat familiar with the rate of growth of the ligustrum - although ligustrum can vary greatly from my personal experiences.
Okay, here are the photos. Imagine the arrow line crossing one photo & continuing to the next. This is the area I would like to cover back by the fence where we have let (GASP!) the Virginia Creeper grow, nay, encouraged it to grow on the fence for the privacy aspect it affords us. The photos were taken when the sun was fully shining & this is how the area in question looks all day long, no more sun, no less sun. Remember that the oak I have drawn a circle on the trunk, will grow over the years & make the area more shady presumably.



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passiflora
Jul 19, 2014 6:24 AM CST
Pineapple guava should be a consideration. I have some growing in part shade. In central AL they have not fruited for me but get this...the flowers are edible and taste like cotton candy! Photo is from my plant.

http://www.floridata.com/ref/f/feijoa.cfm

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Florida anise also comes to mind. Definitely likes the shade! But also likes plenty of moisture.

http://www.floridata.com/ref/i/illi_flo.cfm
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Name: Debra
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Jul 19, 2014 6:26 AM CST
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Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
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flaflwrgrl
Jul 19, 2014 7:05 AM CST
Thanks passiflora, I have pineapple guava in full sun -- they had them as hedges. This is full shade but has light but I think it's too shady as it receives no direct sunlight at all; not even dappled.
It's just too dry up there for the Fl. anise. Sad

Oh, btw, I ate the flowers. I couldn't get cotton candy taste out of them. Maybe it's just my taste buds. They didn't have hardly any flavor at all but you could taste a hint of sweetness.
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others.
~~ Sharon Brown ~~



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