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Aug 2, 2014 6:35 PM CST
Name: Elaine
Sarasota, Fl
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I know that, Ken. I forgive Jim for being a nomenclature geek, too. He shows some of his orchids.

But the rest of us absolutely must kid you about it. Angel Hilarious!
Elaine

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Aug 2, 2014 7:59 PM CST
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Name: Glen Ingram
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Thanks Ursula I had forgotten. I hope someone can help.

I had two vanda types when I first moved here 9 years ago. One got stolen and I am unsure what the identity of this one is. But I have an entry for:
V. Gordon Dillon X V. kretcant X self. I suspect that that might be the stolen one though.

I have the remaining one on the dead trunk of a small eucalyptus (see photo). It went well before I but it there and now it seems to be on the way out. I am wondering if the chemicals in gum trees are a bit toxic and I should move it. However, some roots are firmly established on the dead trunk. Can I sever these and safely move it? I would then try to established it on a palm trunk.

Of course, it may be okay there and I should be doing something else - like fertilising? It is in full sun most of the day. There are two connected growing parts.


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The problem is that when you are young your life it is ruined by your parents. When you are older it is ruined by your children.
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Aug 2, 2014 8:19 PM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
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Believe me, I have been called far worse than "geek". Don't forget, I was a dentist for 42 years before (trying) to learn about orchid nomenclature. Dentistry made more sense! I am doing my best, but starting so late in life there may not be time to become an expert like some of you. Just laugh, cringe, or lament at my mistakes. I have broad shoulders. Whistling
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Aug 2, 2014 8:34 PM CST
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Name: Glen Ingram
Macleay Is, Qld, Australia (Zone 12a)
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And a good set of teeth in that smile!
The problem is that when you are young your life it is ruined by your parents. When you are older it is ruined by your children.
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Aug 2, 2014 8:49 PM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
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I tip my hat to you.
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

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Aug 3, 2014 6:59 AM CST
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Name: Ursula
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Glen, I agree with you. I would think the V. Gordon Dillon x Kretcant is probably a very dark blue color.

I have no clue about the Eucalyptus tree. I have seen tons of Eucalyptus trees, and I now try to pull out of my memory if I ever saw any type of other plants attached to them. I don't think so, but then they were usually planted as "replacement/reforestation tree".

If the roots are so imbedded that you have to clip them really close to the plant, I would probably leave it alone. If it involves just clipping the ends of the roots, or some of the roots only, you should be ok. Other than that, I would see if more waterings and plenty of fertilizer help. Vandas do like a lot of water and fertilizer anyway!
It certainly is a very pretty Vanda!

Sorry, I was not much of help here, I hope others will add here. In the meanwhile I will do some more googling on Eucalyptus trees.

edited to add - here is an article about Eucalyptus mulch-
http://homeguides.sfgate.com/e...
My take-away from this is that a fresh/live Eucalyptus might make for a not so happy Vanda, but in your case the wood is old ( ? -- how attached is the dead piece of wood to the healthy tree) and I would think that any offending compound might have evaporated by now or is thoroughly washed out and away.
Another possibility - can the whole piece of wood with the attached Vanda be somewhat severed from the main tree?
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Aug 3, 2014 10:14 AM CST
Name: Elaine
Sarasota, Fl
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That was my thought, too, Ursula from seeing Glen's pictures. I'd definitely add some water and fert to that Vanda's diet, but . . hey it's blooming! Can't be too awfully distressed.

We have both Eucalyptus and Melaleuca (unfortunately invasive) here in Florida. Both are widely used as mulch, and both are touted as being relatively insect-resistant because of their aromatic oils. I don't know about the aromatic oils damaging epiphytic plants but they sure don't seem to affect any terrestrial plants.

But must say, I've never seen epiphytes growing on either of those trees, that I can recall. Maybe only because they have relatively smooth bark and the epiphytes attach better or find more amenable environs on rougher bark.
Elaine

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Aug 3, 2014 12:15 PM CST
Name: Jim Hawk
Odessa, Florida (Zone 9b)
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I doubt that a dead Eucalyptus tree would produce enough toxins to harm a epiphyte. Orchids are pretty tuff in that regard. I think I would let it be and add water and fertilizer. You said it was growing in two separate but connected clumps. You could cut the connection and remove one while keeping the other in place.

Jim
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Aug 3, 2014 12:44 PM CST
Name: Jim Hawk
Odessa, Florida (Zone 9b)
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I've been looking at V. Gordon Dillon x V. Kretcant x self. First of all, the K in Kretcant is a capital letter. Secondly, where are the parens? Is it (V. Gordon Dillon x V. Kretcant) x self or V. Gordon Dillon x (V. Kretcant x self). Also, I get a "Not Registered" for offspring of V. Gordon Dillon x V. Kretcant. I also see that V. Gordon Dillon is a parent of V. Kretcant. It sounds like quite the family. Hilarious!

Jim
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Aug 3, 2014 2:30 PM CST
Name: Carol
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I won't swear to it, because it's been a long time, but I think some of the Eucalyptus at San Diego Zoo have orchids growing on them.
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Aug 3, 2014 5:40 PM CST
Name: Elaine
Sarasota, Fl
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New bloom for me today, a little one on a new start, Den. bigibbum var. compactum. So pretty! B.nodosa 'Big Jim' has a third spike ready to open. I think the flowers look like they've been stretched, they're so long and leggy.

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Aug 3, 2014 5:46 PM CST
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Name: Ursula
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How nice on both, Elaine! Thumbs up
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Aug 3, 2014 6:42 PM CST
Name: Jim Hawk
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I agree Very nice, Elaine.

Jim
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Aug 3, 2014 7:04 PM CST
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Name: Glen Ingram
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Thanks for the advice every one. Thank You! I will leave it there and give it more attention with fertilising. The eucalyptus trunk is very dead. I know native cymbidiums grow very well on gum trees.
The problem is that when you are young your life it is ruined by your parents. When you are older it is ruined by your children.
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Aug 4, 2014 6:50 AM CST
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Name: Ursula
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Looks a good decision, Glen.
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Aug 4, 2014 8:02 AM CST
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Name: Ursula
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Did I mention that I enjoy my Vanda Adisak Blue?? Naaahhhhh.... Smiling
It is now finally fully open so I just had to take some more pictures.
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Aug 4, 2014 8:28 AM CST
Name: Jim Hawk
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It's a beauty, Ursula. Thanks for letting us enjoy it with you.

Jim
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Aug 4, 2014 8:58 AM CST
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Smiling
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Aug 4, 2014 9:12 AM CST
Name: Elaine
Sarasota, Fl
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Mm hmm, just love those velvety purple flowers.
Elaine

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Aug 4, 2014 10:20 AM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
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My V. Sunlight Orange is budding again. She also bloomed in May-June.
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