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Aug 3, 2014 6:05 PM CST
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Okay, after a nap and a shower, I almost feel human again. At least it's August which means I only have to wait until October for it to cool down. Tampa set a record the other night for warmest night temperature on that day. It only got down to 84! And the all-time record for all days is 85 so we were only one degree away from matching that! It's the heat, it's the humidity, it's the fact that it doesn't even cool down at night. No wonder I can't keep up with the butterflies!

Well, I had a Viceroy pop out last night so it spent the night on the couch and I released it this morning. I had another Viceroy come out while I was napping this afternoon and Mom yelled through my door to let me know. That one flew away immediately so I only have pictures of the morning one. But they look the same. Also, as I was coming back inside this morning, I spotted the hummingbird again! I chased it from one firebush to the next but those things are so fast. And every time I would raise my camera it would fly off. I did notice this one seemed to have a very white belly, but maybe I'm just not used to seeing their bellies? Anyway, here's the Viceroy.

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After a stop at Panera for my usual Sunday breakfast treat, I made it to the museum. And it was time to play with the caterpillars! We have two tanks of skippers - Dorantes and Long-Tailed. They eat the same thing but you can tell them apart. As adults, they also look very similar, but the Dorantes lacks the turquoise color on the top that the Long-Tailed has. But try getting them to open their wings, right? Here's the Dorantes caterpillar. I like their pattern.

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And here's the Long-Tailed. I brought a few from home to add to the tank. When I was looking through these pictures and I saw the different angles I took on the Long-Tailed caterpillar, it made me think I was posing him for a "Wanted" poster. You know, front and side view. Hilarious!

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We don't have too many Atala butterflies left, but we have plenty of caterpillars. They're so cool! This butterfly almost went extinct in the last century due to people digging up its host plant, coontie. You can make a flour out of it and the Native Americans used it as a food source but of course, once the white man found out we took it too far like we usually do. Fortunately, coontie has become a very popular landscape plant because it's native, low-maintenance, drought-tolerant, and has that cool palm-like look people in Florida want. I mean, you find these things planted outside Wal-Mart and McDonald's now. I hear coontie are still hard to find in the wild, though. Sadly though, this butterfly will never come up my way as it is more of a tropical species. But like Dad says, with global warming, who knows? I planted four coontie just in case!

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And I did find one of the Atala butterflies in the flight cage. I can't remember that plant it's on but they sell it at Home Depot. My boss redecorated the flight cage so we have a lot of new plants right now.

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Okay, back to the lab. The Hickory Horned Devils (Regal Moths) are earning their name! My trainee was like, "I knew you said they were going to get big but they're so big!" Yup, I wasn't lying. There was one in the tank that was a little bigger than this guy and I picked him up and his prolegs were so long! It felt really weird walking on me; I actually got a little creeped out and put him back in the tank. Despite the smaller size, I still think Polyphemus Moth cats have a stronger grip, though.

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I was also showing my trainee how Spicebush ST cats turn yellow or orange right before they pupate. This guy made his chrysalis within a half hour of me taking this photo and we both missed it! But at least he made a healthy chrysalis.

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In the flight cage we had some Long-Tailed Skippers that someone must have caught in the garden. As I said, the Long-Tailed has that turquoise on the top whereas the Dorantes will be plain brown. But from the side they look the same to me.

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We had a couple Buckeyes.

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Still Zebra Longwings everywhere.

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I think this Julia is preparing for takeoff.

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I "think" this is an Orange-Barred Sulphur but sometimes the lighting fools me.

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Someone must have netted some White Peacocks in the garden because we haven't had those caterpillars in months. This is Dad's favorite butterfly. They are really pretty, especially when they're fresh. They tend to lose a lot of their color as they age.

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Back in the lab I checked the Malachite cats and they are big enough to see now! I think their antenna are very reminiscent of "The Jetsons". Can't you just see them on a robot?

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Outside in the garden there were several Pipevine STs. This has been a really good year for them. Not sure why.

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We were getting more parsley from the shade house to feed the Eastern Black ST cats and this skipper stopped in to say hello.

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Okay, not a butterfly but always a welcome sight. A native, green anole! The brown ones are from Cuba and are far more numerous. So I always like to see the native guys. He's sitting on passion vine so I hope he doesn't try to eat one of the Frits. That could end badly.

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And speaking of Eastern Black STs...

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We didn't see any more Malachites in the flight cage so we took the rotting fruit out. But then a couple hours later, we saw two of them so the fruit went back in. Where do they hide?

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My trainee caught a Sulphur outside and I was thinking it was an Orange-Barred at first but the markings were a little different. Too much black on the top of it. I'm going to get the book out and see if I can decide what I think it is. I couldn't get a great shot because whenever we catch a butterfly and put it in the flight cage, its natural reaction is to freak out and fly to the top. After a while, they settle down and it's like, "Oh, free nectar!" But that takes a while.

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We also missed a Tiger ST somehow! No idea where this big guy was hiding, but happy to see him.

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Love was in the air for the Giant Swallowtails! This is actually two different butterfly couples. And as you can see, the one is missing a significant amount of wing, but that doesn't stop them!

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And apparently this has been going on for a while because our Kumquat tree was covered in eggs. Giant STs don't usually lay in clusters but they went crazy in the flight cage! I hate to think how many eggs we collected. At least we cleaned off the tree so those mating pairs can lay eggs when they're done.

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And finally, while we were collecting eggs this Cloudless Sulphur came and posed. It has a bit of a messed up wing, but it was still getting around.

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Aug 3, 2014 6:20 PM CST
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Wonderful trip through your day, Melanie! Smiling Those BST couples are really something! Smiling
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Aug 3, 2014 6:49 PM CST
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Name: Melanie
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Thanks Cat, but those are Giant ST couples!
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Aug 3, 2014 6:57 PM CST
Name: Catmint/Robin
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oops! yes, you did say that! Where's my brain? LOL!
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Aug 3, 2014 9:43 PM CST
Name: josephine
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I repeat, Malanie you are amazing and a lot of fun too. Keep it up Girl Smiling
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Aug 5, 2014 1:21 PM CST
Name: josephine
Arlington, Texas (Zone 8a)
Hi Everybody!! Let us talk native.
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I was lucky to get this picture of an Eastern Tiger on my phlox yesterday, they are so beautiful!! Smiling

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Aug 5, 2014 7:17 PM CST
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Hurray! Hurray! Josephine!
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Aug 6, 2014 3:34 PM CST
Name: josephine
Arlington, Texas (Zone 8a)
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I found this lovely moth on my screen door and I just had it identified on the Insect ID forum
http://garden.org/forums/view/...

It is the Pink Spotted Hawk Moth, here it is in all its glory.

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Aug 6, 2014 3:47 PM CST
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Love that moth Josephine!
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Aug 6, 2014 8:38 PM CST
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Nice, Josephine! I really didn't expect to see any Spicebush caterpillars this late...I'd decided no Spicebush butterflies were going to find my Spicebush this year. So was pleasantly surprised to see cut folded leaves this morning! I didn't have time then to do anything, but went back this evening after I got home again and collected the cats to bring them in. So happy! Hurray!
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Aug 6, 2014 9:30 PM CST
Name: josephine
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Very good Linda, I have a Spicebush, but have never seen any of the butterflies. I think they don't come this way. Smiling
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Aug 7, 2014 5:19 AM CST
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That's so cool Linda Hurray!
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Aug 7, 2014 2:54 PM CST
Name: Leon
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I've got butterflies all over the place this week. So, I thought it might be time to get a few pictures. What I don't know is their identities, and wonder if someone might know what these are. Thanks in advance for your time (& expertise).

These are small (1" or less) and are numerous.
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These too are small like the one above. It reminds me of
an F-15 fighter aircraft.
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And this is the nicest looking, showing both sides of the wings.
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Aug 7, 2014 3:00 PM CST
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Hi Leon! The first one looks like a Silver-Spotted Skipper although there are some similar butterflies I just discovered so someone let me know if they disagree. The second one is some kind of skipper. There are so many skippers I tend to just segregate them into "orange" and "brown". The third is a Painted Lady. Very nice photos, all around! Someone else chime in if you know the second skipper. I've seen ones that look like that here, too but I don't know if they're the same and I can't remember the name anyway. Fiery Skipper, maybe? I'm an expert on the Florida ones; you Midwestern folks confuse me! Hilarious!
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Aug 7, 2014 3:10 PM CST
Name: Leon
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Thanks Melanie. I'm confused on most butterflies, and I live here! Confused
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Aug 7, 2014 4:46 PM CST
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Well, Dad got it in his head that he was going to weed and do some trimming on Sunday while I was at the museum. As much as the butterflies love the Spanish Needles, they have to be controlled or they get way out of hand. And some of the bushes did need some trimming, especially the ones next to the house. Luckily, the sun and the heat chased him inside before he could do any more damage. I can't even talk to him. He should not be let go in my garden unsupervised. It's peak butterfly time and I have almost zero Spanish Needles in bloom, he chopped my porterweed, and cut back my false indigo for reasons I can't fathom. Amazingly, he has learned to recognize milkweed and left it alone. But he managed to tear up some firebush, pentas, and the coreopsis that was somehow making a comeback from last year! And that was just the front of the house! Thank God he didn't make it to my actual butterfly garden on the side. Needless to say, I've been in a bad mood for days due to that and other relatives ticking me off so bad I had to unfriend them on Facebook. So I haven't posted here because I haven't been fit for polite society.

But I'm hiding out in my room and taking lots of Klonopin so I guess I can post now. FYI, I see my therapist on Wednesday and he's going to get an earful. He's been on vacation so I'm sure he'll need shocked back into the world of psychology, anyway. Rolling on the floor laughing

Well, my garden is lacking in butterflies but I did release a few. Here's a Cloudless Sulphur that took off flying but nicely landed in the ferns on Dad's Canary Island Date Palm. I'd take a hacksaw to Dad's palm for revenge but it seems to be mysteriously dying; the fronds are all falling off and the ones that are left are leaning to one side.

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I also had another Polydamas come out.

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Today, I went out looking for eggs on the pipevine because I have to rescue the Pipevine ST eggs that are laid on the tropical pipevine. I should have done it a few days ago but I've been busy and angry and depressed so it didn't happen until today. I found one clutch of eggs that hadn't hatched but another that had. But I think they had just hatched because some of the eggs were still eggs and the caterpillars appeared to have only eaten their eggs and not any of the plant. So good timing there! They are now safely inside with native Wooly Pipevine to eat.

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There were tons of Polydamas eggs and caterpillars and sure enough, a female came along to lay some eggs.

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She didn't have the best aim as she laid the eggs on the Spanish Moss and not the actual pipevine. Sometimes they lay eggs on the fence, too.

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I was chasing a Monarch trying to get a photo when I finally gave up. When I turned around, two Polydamas were doing that tornado thing. Sorry the pictures are bad, but have you ever tried to photograph them doing that? Made me dizzy just watching it.

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Finally, the one was like, screw this, I'm going to go hide in this oak tree. Polydamas don't often hold still or land unless they're laying an egg so this was weird.

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In other news, I found three Sulphur caterpillars. Don't know which kind which is part of the fun. You just don't know until they molt and get bigger. By the way, when Sulphur cats are small, they really like laying in the seam of the leaf like in the second picture. So look for them there on new growth.

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I don't know why this Gulf Frit was hanging out on this weed. From the tattered and worn look, I think it was just plain tired. I walked real close to it, unintentionally, and it didn't even move.

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And I still have my Zebra Longwings. My Passiflora "Lavender Lady" has put out a lot of new growth, FYI, so I imagine I'll have caterpillars chomping away again soon. In the first picture, the Zebra is on Spanish Needles even though you can't see the flower. And in the other shot, the Zebras are apparently fans of my Mexican Flame Vine that I thought I killed last year but made a miraculous comeback.

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And in a last piece of news, my final Viceroy cat made a chrysalis!
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Aug 7, 2014 5:20 PM CST
Name: Dave
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TBGDN said:I've got butterflies all over the place this week. So, I thought it might be time to get a few pictures. What I don't know is their identities, and wonder if someone might know what these are. Thanks in advance for your time (& expertise).

These are small (1" or less) and are numerous.
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These too are small like the one above. It reminds me of
an F-15 fighter aircraft.
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And this is the nicest looking, showing both sides of the wings.
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Looks a lot like a Zebulon Sipper

Well if I could spell or maybe it's my typing skill I would have said Zebulon Skipper.
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Aug 7, 2014 6:17 PM CST
Name: Leon
Indiana (Zone 5a)
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Dave, I'd say you're right. This is what I found at Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z...
Thanks
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Aug 7, 2014 7:08 PM CST
Name: Linda Williams
Medina Co., TX (Zone 8a)
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Nice assortment of pretty butterflies, Dave!
Here's the only Giant Swallowtail that I've raised that became a butterfly. Kind of a slow year for them.
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And here's a little bitty Spicebush Swallowtail cat. I've found 15 so far.
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Aug 7, 2014 7:25 PM CST
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Name: Melanie
Lutz, Florida (Zone 9b)
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Linda, I am super jealous of your Spicebushies! If I got the skunk vine off my Spicebush and Sassafras, I might have more butterflies able to find the host plant, but what are you gonna do? It seems like it's been a slow year for Giant STs here in the wild but because they went insane in the flight cage at MOSI we've got tanks full of caterpillars. I've only found a handful of cats in the garden, though. One was on Wild Lime and the others were on rue. Sometimes it's like that, though. Been a great year for Orange-Barred Sulphurs and the Sleepy Oranges are starting up early this year, too. I guess I just appreciate whoever happens to show up, but I do worry about the ones that don't! Then, I remind myself about the cyclical nature of, well, nature. Maybe next year will be better. I wonder if that citrus greening has had an effect since lots of people have had to remove their infected trees? Hmmm...something to ponder.

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