Plant ID forum: This looks soooo familiar

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Name: Lin
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plantladylin
Aug 5, 2014 2:18 PM CST
but for the life of me I can't put a name to it. I'm pretty sure I found this same plant sprouting at our old house a few years ago and may have had it ID'd on another site but I have thousands of photo's on my laptop and haven't been able to identify it yet. I don't go to that other site anymore so I thought I'd post a picture here to see if it looks familiar to anyone. It's about 15 inches tall, leaves appear alternate along the stem .... sprouting in a flower bed in my yard amidst a bunch of other plants. Does anyone recognize it from the leaves?


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dave
Aug 5, 2014 2:26 PM CST

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We have a few of these on our property. I think it's Chinese Tallow Tree (Triadica sebifera)

Name: Lin
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plantladylin
Aug 5, 2014 2:46 PM CST
Dave: Thank You!! That's it ... I have a few photo's in a folder on my laptop but didn't get that far down the list. Smiling Appreciate the ID!!
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Name: Greene
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greene
Aug 5, 2014 3:11 PM CST
http://www.invasivespeciesinfo.gov/plants/chintallow.shtml

I allowed one of these to grow because it was 'pretty' and the honeybees love it. That was before some local guys explained the invasive nature of the tree. I have cut down the tree, the roots of which are huge and growing under a large cement patio. Each root continues to sprout new growth. This tree will keep me busy for a while.

But they are beautiful.
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Name: Dave Whitinger
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dave
Aug 5, 2014 3:16 PM CST

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Definitely very invasive. I'm never happen to find one coming up in our wood edges.

Thanks for posting the photos to the DB, Lin! Thumbs up
Name: Lin
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plantladylin
Aug 5, 2014 3:24 PM CST
greene: Yep, I yanked the ones I found a few years ago at our other house and did the same with this one!

Dave: I tip my hat to you.
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Name: Greene
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greene
Aug 5, 2014 3:53 PM CST
At a local honeybee meeting last year and one of the members (who shall remain nameless) was handing out free seeds so the members could plant this tree for the bees.



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Name: Lin
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plantladylin
Aug 5, 2014 4:12 PM CST
greene said:At a local honeybee meeting last year and one of the members (who shall remain nameless) was handing out free seeds so the members could plant this tree for the bees.
Crying Grumbling Angry Thumbs down

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terrafirma
Aug 5, 2014 4:16 PM CST
I agree I have one in my front yard, and the only reason we keep it is because it's the only shade we have in our WSW location! Glare Though it is very mature, and probably on it's way out anyway...It's very hard to get rid of the only bit of shade... Grumbling Ugh!
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ShadyGreenThumb
Aug 5, 2014 4:30 PM CST
I have a large volunteer Chinese Tallow in the front yard. After the loss of two Bradford Pear Trees to lighting strikes and high wind, we welcomed the quick shade it brought back to our front yard. I had been warned that the tree can become mis-shapened at the 8 year mark. That is not the case. We have had this tree for about 15 years and it is a beautiful natural shape. Others in the neighborhood have been trimmed up nicely as well. The tree goes to seed seasonally and sprout about as much as my oaks and some of the elderberry and cottonwoods in the forest behind the house. But it doesn't take much to keep that under control. I find many weeds much more invasive. Maybe it is not invasive because I let it grow? I love the tree's awesome fall colors.
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Name: Lin
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plantladylin
Aug 5, 2014 5:14 PM CST
It sure is a pretty tree but thankfully I don't see them popping up around here often. Now my neighbors Chinese Elm (Ulmus parvifolia) that's another story! I love that tree for it's shade and beautiful bark but I've literally yanked thousands of them every year in the past three years we've been in this house.
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Horntoad
Aug 5, 2014 6:03 PM CST
ShadyGreenThumb said:I have a large volunteer Chinese Tallow in the front yard. After the loss of two Bradford Pear Trees to lighting strikes and high wind, we welcomed the quick shade it brought back to our front yard. I had been warned that the tree can become mis-shapened at the 8 year mark. That is not the case. We have had this tree for about 15 years and it is a beautiful natural shape. Others in the neighborhood have been trimmed up nicely as well. The tree goes to seed seasonally and sprout about as much as my oaks and some of the elderberry and cottonwoods in the forest behind the house. But it doesn't take much to keep that under control. I find many weeds much more invasive. Maybe it is not invasive because I let it grow? I love the tree's awesome fall colors.

When plants like this are listed as invasive, it is referring to the ecological impact, not how it behaves in the garden. Birds eat the seed and deposit them in natural area where take over, pushing out native species. Chinese Tallow is a major offender as are Ligustrums

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Name: Lin
Florida (Zone 9b)
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plantladylin
Aug 5, 2014 6:48 PM CST
Horntoad said:
When plants like this are listed as invasive, it is referring to the ecological impact, not how it behaves in the garden. Birds eat the seed and deposit them in natural area where take over, pushing out native species. Chinese Tallow is a major offender as are Ligustrums
... Yes, as are many other plants. My entire subdivision would be a forest of Chinese Elm trees if left to grow. And, the entire state of Florida would be a forest of Brazilian Pepper Tree (Schinus terebinthifolius) if left to grow. There are thousands of acres of the invasive Brazilian Pepper here in the state and it's listed as a Category I non-native invasive.
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