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crittergarden
Aug 9, 2014 1:57 PM CST
I was walking the other day and stopped to chat with a neighbor working in her yard (Pittsburgh's neighborly like that!) She showed me this plant that she had gotten from a friend who was using it as a filler where it was crowding out all other weeds and grasses. She had no idea what it is and neither do I.
It seems to be about 9" tall.

Anyone?


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Name: June
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JuneOntario
Aug 9, 2014 2:42 PM CST
It looks a lot like a Perilla to me. It used to grow in my Zone 6 garden in PA, and self-seeded prolifically. Excess plants were easy to pull up, though, so I let it stay.
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SongofJoy
Aug 9, 2014 2:44 PM CST
That was my first thought but that's a tall one.
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JuneOntario
Aug 9, 2014 2:52 PM CST
In good soil, Perilla can grow tall. When it grew in the flowerbed I unwittingly sited on top of the septic tank's drain-field, it reached 12 inches or more.
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crittergarden
Aug 9, 2014 3:20 PM CST
Well, it's in a bag in the sandy soil from her friend right now.
That is where it is below knee level - about HALF knee level.
It's NOT currently blooming and she didn't mention flowers.

Hmmm.
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SongofJoy
Aug 9, 2014 4:19 PM CST
lol. I had read that as 9'. No wonder I was confused. *Blush*

Yes, Perilla.
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crittergarden
Aug 9, 2014 4:48 PM CST
OH!!!
Hilarious!
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crittergarden
Aug 9, 2014 4:51 PM CST
Before I can be sure it's perilla, I'll have to ask her some more questions.
Perilla is not hardy here.....
MAYBE it self seeds at her friend's house.....
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SongofJoy
Aug 9, 2014 6:15 PM CST
Perilla can self-seed.
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greene
Aug 9, 2014 11:42 PM CST
Sunset Zone 28, AHS Heat Zone 9, USDA zone 8b~~"Leaf of Faith"
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crittergarden
Aug 10, 2014 4:50 AM CST
I think we've nailed it.

Greene, I looked through the database but I missed that particular pic!
Was seeing bicolor leaves, blossoms, etc.
But THAT pic does look just like the one I've seen in person.
Thank You!
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greene
Aug 10, 2014 9:33 AM CST
This plant self-seeds in my daughter's back yard. I regularly dig up young plants to share at swaps.
If you have the correct identification the leaves are edible, but some people have to get used to the taste - similar to licorice.

I also grow the large leaf Korean type (green leaves) which have a milder flavor. (Hoping to save seeds for the Piggy Swap.)
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crittergarden
Aug 10, 2014 9:37 AM CST
interesting!

Maybe I can pick some of hers when it fills in, and go for a more specific ID of which cultivar.
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greene
Aug 10, 2014 9:58 AM CST
You could root a cutting.
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crittergarden
Aug 10, 2014 10:13 AM CST
Of course - once she gets hers IN THE GROUND!!!! Hilarious!
It's still in the plastic bag she brought it home in!!
With soil from where she dug it.
Wilted the day I took pics, so I shot the one she had added in a mixed container.

To clarify - is ALL perilla edible?
Because I'm pretty willing to try new things!
If you never try, you never learn!
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greene
Aug 10, 2014 11:03 AM CST
Just to clarify from a previous discussion - some plants are called 'perilla' in their common names, but that does not mean they are edible and does not mean they are actually a perilla.

If you want to be sure, buy one original edible plant from a reputable seller (or get one from a trusted trader) and propagate more.
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crittergarden
Aug 10, 2014 11:39 AM CST
Yeah, that's pretty much what I thought.
I'm more interested in identifying the one in front of me and IF it's edible, going from there.
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skylark
Aug 16, 2014 7:43 PM CST
green perilla is used in japanese cuisine: it's the shiso leaf that you get as a garnish with your sushi/sashimi. it is edible, it tastes minty, but it is an aquired taste.
and there is a red one too - it is used mostly for pickles for pink color.
there are some varieties with smooth edges and others frilled like yours.
see Perilla frutescens var. crispa ‘Aka Shiso’ – Purple Beefsteak Plant or Red Shiso
http://mikesgardentop5plants.wordpress.com/2013/04/12/unusua...
and here's how to use it for traditional japanese plum pickles:
http://japanesefood.about.com/od/pickle/ss/prepare_redshiso_...
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crittergarden
Aug 17, 2014 7:04 AM CST
Thank you, Skylark.
Pretty avatar, too!
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plantladylin
Aug 17, 2014 9:40 AM CST
Very pretty! Many Perilla can grow to 3 feet in height.

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