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Aug 14, 2014 5:42 PM CST
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Name: Michael Norberry
Arcata, CA Zone 9 or 17 suns (Zone 9a)
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Today, I decided to separate my Spirit of America - Western Species. I planted one (1) bulb 2 years ago in a 5 gallon container.

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This is what I found

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Aug 14, 2014 5:45 PM CST
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Name: Connie
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Yeah, I guess so (time to divide)!
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Aug 14, 2014 6:20 PM CST
Name: Lorn (Roosterlorn)
S.E Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Holy Cow!!! Whatever your doing, keep doin' it--this plant loves you! Beautiful flower and a great picture too! Hurray! Acorn Thumbs up
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Aug 14, 2014 6:22 PM CST
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Name: Connie
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Western North American lilies grow like that (rhizomatous) and tend to crowd themselves too much even if not in a container so best to divide them at this point.
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Aug 14, 2014 11:36 PM CST
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Holy cow!
Where are we going, and why am I in this hand-basket?
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Aug 15, 2014 5:02 AM CST
Name: della
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Amazing!
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Aug 15, 2014 8:32 AM CST
Name: Rick R.
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Nice, healthy bulbs there.
And good examples of rhizomatous bulb growth. Thumbs up
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Aug 31, 2014 12:46 PM CST
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Name: Michael Norberry
Arcata, CA Zone 9 or 17 suns (Zone 9a)
Region: California Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Dog Lover Ponds Seed Starter
L. rubescens or L. washingtonianum

I was talking to a forester (Stan) a few days ago and I mentioned about natives in our area. He indicated on the land that he surveys (Bald Hill Road abouit 10 miles from the Redwood National Park) that a white lily that fades to pink (couldn't remember) if it had dots, grew there. I mentioned that if he ever found mature (brown) seed pod I would be very interested.

Yesterday I got a knock on my door, there Stan was there with a bucket of dirt. This is what I found


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He also had two (2) stems with green seed pods. I placed them in water hoping that they might mature.
He told me where the location of the lilies and I plan on going up there next year when they are in bloom to take photos.


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Aug 31, 2014 3:00 PM CST
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Looks like some nice bulbs you have there. It will be interesting to see what you've got next year. Very cool Smiling
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Aug 31, 2014 8:00 PM CST
Name: Rick R.
Minneapolis,MN, USA z4b,Dfb/a
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Stan must know what a good custodian/guardian you would be to bring them to you. Thumbs up

Did you realize that the bulbs are sometimes an easy way to tell the two species apart?
Assuming they are all the same species, they are L. washingtonianum, because some have notched scales. L. rubescens never has notched scales. Based on the geographic source, yours appear to be L. washingtonianum var. purpurascens, as the dividing point seems to be about Mount Shasta and Mount Lassen, south of which (along the Sierra Nevada) is var. washingtonianum, and north and west of which is var. purpurascens.

Speaking of scales, do see if you can produce some bulblets from the broken off ones. Sometimes species can be a little stubborn with this kind of propagation, depending on which they are or what time of year, so don't be discouraged if it is unsuccessful.
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Aug 31, 2014 10:20 PM CST
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Name: Michael Norberry
Arcata, CA Zone 9 or 17 suns (Zone 9a)
Region: California Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Dog Lover Ponds Seed Starter
Thanks for the information. The pieces that separated from the larger ones were planted as I normally plant scales. I wasn't sure if they would produce bulbs like other lilies, but it doesn't hurt to try.
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