Plant Database forum: whole string wildcard characters

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Name: D Brawner
Daufuskie Island SC (Zone 8b)
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dbrawner
Aug 14, 2014 9:19 PM CST
i was searching for Prunus cerasus but it included things like Prunus laurocerasus

I tried single and double quotes.
Name: Dave Whitinger
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dave
Aug 15, 2014 7:26 AM CST

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Thanks for that report - I had automatic wildcard enabled in our search engine. I disabled it and now it matches just what you're looking for. Thumbs up
Name: Kent Pfeiffer
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KentPfeiffer
Aug 15, 2014 8:21 AM CST

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Not sure I like that change, Dave. Smiling

The way it was before, you could type in part of a plant's name and it would show up. Now, it often doesn't. For example, say I wanted to look up all of the Liatris pycnostachya entries in the database, but couldn't remember exactly how to spell "pycnostachya". Used to be, you could type "Liatris pycno" in the search box and all of the Liatris pycnostachya entries would be found. Now, you get nothing:

http://garden.org/plants/search/text.php?q=Liatris+pycno&but...

http://garden.org/plants/search/text.php?q=Liatris+pycnostac...
Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
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dave
Aug 15, 2014 8:27 AM CST

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The medicine may have been worse than the disease. Let me think on this over the morning.
Name: D Brawner
Daufuskie Island SC (Zone 8b)
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dbrawner
Aug 15, 2014 8:48 AM CST
yeah i just wanted to be able to enter something like "Prunus cerasus" and it looks for that exact string vs doing a split on the two separate words.
Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
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dave
Aug 15, 2014 10:13 AM CST

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Okay, I think I have a solution. I've enabled a different kind of matching and now you can use a star as a wildcard.

So if you wrap your phrase in quotes it will only match that exact phrase.

If you want it to match an incomplete word you can add a star to the end of the word and it'll match anything after that. You can also put the star at the beginning of a word, too.

http://garden.org/plants/search/text.php?q=Liatris+pycno*&su...

Is this a good solution or should I go back to the way it was this morning?
Name: Evan
Pioneer Valley south, MA, USA (Zone 6a)
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eclayne
Aug 15, 2014 11:07 AM CST

Plants Admin

I seldom type in whole word names. colo escu would bring up all of the Colocasia esculenta for instance.
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Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
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dave
Aug 15, 2014 11:17 AM CST

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As of now you have to add stars. colo* escu*

Should I change it back? I'm thinking yes because is it worth the extra hassle just so people don't get extra plants added to their result list?
Name: Evan
Pioneer Valley south, MA, USA (Zone 6a)
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eclayne
Aug 15, 2014 11:18 AM CST

Plants Admin

Ahh, got it. Works fine Thumbs up
Evan
Name: Kent Pfeiffer
Southeast Nebraska (Zone 5b)
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KentPfeiffer
Aug 15, 2014 11:40 AM CST

Plants Admin

eclayne said:I seldom type in whole word names. colo escu would bring up all of the Colocasia esculenta for instance.


I agree

I rarely type whole word names when searching the database, even when searching cultivars.

I like the ability to use quote marks to force an exact match. However, having to use the stars on partial words is going to take some getting used to.

Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
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dave
Aug 15, 2014 12:00 PM CST

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I put it back the way it was.

The search program I use for searching plants is called sphinx and it seems a little finicky about allowing phrase searches without also messing with the wildcard system.

We can revisit this later. For now it's back to the way it was yesterday.
Name: D Brawner
Daufuskie Island SC (Zone 8b)
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dbrawner
Aug 15, 2014 12:11 PM CST
sorry for making a fuss it wasn't a big issue just was wondering.
Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
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dave
Aug 15, 2014 12:15 PM CST

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I didn't see it as making a fuss. Smiling We want the DB to be the best it can be. Suggestions are always welcome.

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