Insect and Bug ID forum: What caterpillar is this?

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Name: Catmint/Robin
Maryland (Zone 7a)
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Catmint20906
Aug 19, 2014 5:31 PM CST
On my Salvia 'May Night'. Sort of a lavender color. Blended in surprisingly well with the Salvia stem!
Thumb of 2014-08-19/Catmint20906/612a64

Just wondering if it's something to encourage or to remove.
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Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
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flaflwrgrl
Aug 19, 2014 6:04 PM CST
Interesting Cat. I'll be curious to know the answer to this one too. I'm all ears!
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others.
~~ Sharon Brown ~~



Name: Catmint/Robin
Maryland (Zone 7a)
Region: Mid-Atlantic Butterflies Forum moderator Native Plants and Wildflowers Bee Lover Echinacea
Region: Maryland Garden Photography Cottage Gardener Garden Ideas: Master Level Celebrating Gardening: 2015 The WITWIT Badge
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Catmint20906
Aug 19, 2014 6:06 PM CST
I know the Southern Pink Moth uses Salvia as a host, but it's hard to find much good info on that caterpillar, for some reason. Sad
"One of the pleasures of being a gardener comes from the enjoyment you get looking at other people's yards”
― Thalassa Cruso
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level
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flaflwrgrl
Aug 19, 2014 6:18 PM CST
I found these photos of the cat Cat.
http://bugguide.net/node/view/709017/bgimage
http://bugguide.net/node/view/708346
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others.
~~ Sharon Brown ~~



Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level
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flaflwrgrl
Aug 19, 2014 6:23 PM CST
Also these
http://www.missouribotanicalgarden.org/gardens-gardening/you...
these are the photos from that site:
http://www.missouribotanicalgarden.org/Portals/0/Gardening/G...

http://www.missouribotanicalgarden.org/Portals/0/Gardening/G...

http://www.missouribotanicalgarden.org/Portals/0/Gardening/G...
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others.
~~ Sharon Brown ~~



Name: Catmint/Robin
Maryland (Zone 7a)
Region: Mid-Atlantic Butterflies Forum moderator Native Plants and Wildflowers Bee Lover Echinacea
Region: Maryland Garden Photography Cottage Gardener Garden Ideas: Master Level Celebrating Gardening: 2015 The WITWIT Badge
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Catmint20906
Aug 19, 2014 6:29 PM CST
Thanks so much, Ann! That's very helpful! It seems as though the larvae takes on the appearance of whatever surface it is on! I'll bet that's what it is. Thumbs down Well, I went ahead and cut off the stem where the caterpillar was, and disposed of it. Now I'll need to keep an eye on that plant and my other salvia for other signs of this pest.
"One of the pleasures of being a gardener comes from the enjoyment you get looking at other people's yards”
― Thalassa Cruso
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level
Butterflies Charter ATP Member Plant Identifier Region: Florida Dog Lover Birds
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flaflwrgrl
Aug 19, 2014 6:40 PM CST
YVW! I tip my hat to you.

It does appear that the color of what they're on is reflected in their body.
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others.
~~ Sharon Brown ~~



Name: Catmint/Robin
Maryland (Zone 7a)
Region: Mid-Atlantic Butterflies Forum moderator Native Plants and Wildflowers Bee Lover Echinacea
Region: Maryland Garden Photography Cottage Gardener Garden Ideas: Master Level Celebrating Gardening: 2015 The WITWIT Badge
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Catmint20906
Aug 19, 2014 6:51 PM CST
I just read one comment that they may be transparent? That would explain why they assume the color of whatever they're on! Big Grin
"One of the pleasures of being a gardener comes from the enjoyment you get looking at other people's yards”
― Thalassa Cruso
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level
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flaflwrgrl
Aug 19, 2014 7:05 PM CST
Ohhhhhhhhh, very interesting! Very interesting indeed. It's a pretty moth. I've never seen a pink one, didn't even know pink ones existed. We better not let Paris Hilton find out. Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others.
~~ Sharon Brown ~~



Name: Catmint/Robin
Maryland (Zone 7a)
Region: Mid-Atlantic Butterflies Forum moderator Native Plants and Wildflowers Bee Lover Echinacea
Region: Maryland Garden Photography Cottage Gardener Garden Ideas: Master Level Celebrating Gardening: 2015 The WITWIT Badge
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Catmint20906
Aug 19, 2014 7:10 PM CST
Rolling on the floor laughing And then it would become the Paris Hilton moth! Smiling I think I have seen it in my yard--at least there has been something pink and moth-like flitting around among my red salvia. Whistling Pretty, but I'm not reading good things about it. Glare I love salvia! I hope I don't have to limit my growing of it next year because of this pest!
"One of the pleasures of being a gardener comes from the enjoyment you get looking at other people's yards”
― Thalassa Cruso
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level
Butterflies Charter ATP Member Plant Identifier Region: Florida Dog Lover Birds
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flaflwrgrl
Aug 19, 2014 7:13 PM CST
You know you can spray dish detergent mixed with alcohol & water to kill the cats. Just make sure to rinse it off after about 10 minutes so the sun doesn't burn the plants.
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others.
~~ Sharon Brown ~~



Name: Catmint/Robin
Maryland (Zone 7a)
Region: Mid-Atlantic Butterflies Forum moderator Native Plants and Wildflowers Bee Lover Echinacea
Region: Maryland Garden Photography Cottage Gardener Garden Ideas: Master Level Celebrating Gardening: 2015 The WITWIT Badge
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Catmint20906
Aug 19, 2014 7:14 PM CST
I'll have to try that--thanks! Does it hurt any of the pollinators?
"One of the pleasures of being a gardener comes from the enjoyment you get looking at other people's yards”
― Thalassa Cruso
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level
Butterflies Charter ATP Member Plant Identifier Region: Florida Dog Lover Birds
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flaflwrgrl
Aug 19, 2014 7:21 PM CST
Not unless you spray it on them. I usually do it early in the morn or in the evening ---- otherwise our sun is just too strong & will fry the plants. If you just kind of shake the plants or brush your hand to wiggle them, the pollinators will leave. Then you can spray, wait 10 minutes & rinse. You could harm pollinators if you spray it on them. Alcohol alone will kill wasps in places you don't want soap, such as your house (you know, when the occasional wasp gets inside). Outside, if wasps build nests in really inconvenient places, like right next to your door, you can mix up the dish detergent (Palmolive, Dawn, whatever), alcohol & water & put it in a garden pump sprayer, wait till disk when all the wasps are home & then go spray the nest. Knocks them right down. Then knock the nest itself down.
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others.
~~ Sharon Brown ~~



Name: Catmint/Robin
Maryland (Zone 7a)
Region: Mid-Atlantic Butterflies Forum moderator Native Plants and Wildflowers Bee Lover Echinacea
Region: Maryland Garden Photography Cottage Gardener Garden Ideas: Master Level Celebrating Gardening: 2015 The WITWIT Badge
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Catmint20906
Aug 19, 2014 7:33 PM CST
Thanks, Ann! Thumbs up
"One of the pleasures of being a gardener comes from the enjoyment you get looking at other people's yards”
― Thalassa Cruso
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level
Butterflies Charter ATP Member Plant Identifier Region: Florida Dog Lover Birds
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flaflwrgrl
Aug 19, 2014 7:35 PM CST
Welcome!
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others.
~~ Sharon Brown ~~



Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
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sooby
Aug 20, 2014 4:17 AM CST
In Cat's picture the caterpillar looks slightly fuzzy (hairs, not the focus) whereas the moth caterpillar doesn't. To me the pink caterpillar looks much more like the gray hairstreak butterfly caterpillar:

http://bugguide.net/node/view/678538
http://www.butterflyfunfacts.com/images/grayhairstreakporter...
http://www.raisingbutterflies.org/gray-hairstreak/
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level
Butterflies Charter ATP Member Plant Identifier Region: Florida Dog Lover Birds
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flaflwrgrl
Aug 20, 2014 4:47 AM CST
I thought the photo was fuzzy. Now that I see your links Sue, it sure does look like the gray hairstreak. Cat, you've seen it in person so you have to make the call. I think Sue is right though.
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others.
~~ Sharon Brown ~~



Name: Catmint/Robin
Maryland (Zone 7a)
Region: Mid-Atlantic Butterflies Forum moderator Native Plants and Wildflowers Bee Lover Echinacea
Region: Maryland Garden Photography Cottage Gardener Garden Ideas: Master Level Celebrating Gardening: 2015 The WITWIT Badge
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Catmint20906
Aug 20, 2014 5:12 AM CST
Thanks so much, Sue--you might be right about that! I see reports of Gray Hairstreak using one type of Salvia (Salvia mellifera) as a host plant. Maybe it uses others as well?

Okay, I'll rescue him, poor hairstreak caterpillar!! :-)
"One of the pleasures of being a gardener comes from the enjoyment you get looking at other people's yards”
― Thalassa Cruso
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