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Aug 23, 2014 8:28 PM CST
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Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
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It's almost too easy to take cuttings and get them to root. At most it takes two weeks, in a soil-less mix kept damp but not soggy, and you'll see the roots forming. I put about 7 or 8 in one pot, rooted them and then sent them off to a friend in Michigan who used to live a mile from me. Gives her that "taste of home" feeling. You can even cut each cutting (sounds funny) into smaller pieces and they'll root.
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Aug 23, 2014 8:39 PM CST
Name: Julia
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Arlene you beat me to it about propagation.
Sempervivum for Sale
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Aug 23, 2014 8:47 PM CST
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Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
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That is so true. If you need more cuttings come on over Connie. I have lots.
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Aug 23, 2014 9:06 PM CST
Name: Connie
Willamette Valley OR (Zone 8a)
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Lynn, how old is your planting? Mine is 10-15 years old and I guess you could say it is a massive planting after all that time. It reseeds freely too but those little ones get stepped on a lot. The thing is, cuttings won't do because I have a largish area to cover so several pots would work better. Here is a pic from June:

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Aug 23, 2014 9:08 PM CST
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Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
Region: Ukraine Dahlias I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Houseplants Tomato Heads Garden Ideas: Level 1
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Can you take cuttings, pot them and plant the pots?
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Aug 23, 2014 10:25 PM CST
Name: Connie
Willamette Valley OR (Zone 8a)
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From what I can tell one cutting would be one stem. What I need is at least a flat of 4" pots. This area is around 3 ft by 5 or 6 feet, curved. I want it solid like around my pond and fast!

Lynn, which sedums are similar enough that they could be mixed up in commerce? I know that I bought 4 or 5 different sedums at the same time and one was labeled kamtschaticum and a couple of others were Blue Spruce and Blue Carpet. But at that time I didn't give a hoot about their names so didn't keep track of which was which. This sedum is the only one that comes close to kamtschaticus but it could still be mislabeled. I just don't think it can be identified by photos alone.

I do have a few seedlings here and there; I usually pull them out!
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Aug 23, 2014 10:48 PM CST
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Phedimus kamtschaticus, and Sedum Kamtschaticum are the same plant. The botanical name changed from Sedum to Phedimus.
Yours looks just like my Phedimus kamtschaticus. I think Youngs has that one.
There is a Phedimus kamtschaticus var. ellacombianum, the leaves look the same. Let me go out tomorrow morning and look at my two plants to see what the difference might be.
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Aug 24, 2014 12:24 PM CST
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Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
Region: Ukraine Dahlias I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Houseplants Tomato Heads Garden Ideas: Level 1
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I've stumped the pro! He said he's never seen it and, of course, never had it for sale! Sorry to disappoint. He did think it's some form of Kamchaticum but couldn't say what is is,

I did ask if the stem could be cut in sections to get it to root and he agreed that it would work. I offered him the piece I brought along for ID and he leaped at the chance to propagate it.
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Aug 24, 2014 12:28 PM CST
Name: Connie
Willamette Valley OR (Zone 8a)
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And it will be named Sedum kamtschaticus 'Pirl' Big Grin .
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Aug 24, 2014 12:39 PM CST
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Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing
And a new sedum is born. Whistling
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Aug 24, 2014 12:47 PM CST
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Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
Region: Ukraine Dahlias I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Houseplants Tomato Heads Garden Ideas: Level 1
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How cute, Connie!

Does anyone have any suggestions as to who would know precisely what it is? If there is any seller of sedums who is cooperative with endless questions and identifications I'd be glad to give it a try.
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Aug 24, 2014 1:29 PM CST
Name: Connie
Willamette Valley OR (Zone 8a)
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Arlene, did your friend point out the reasons why he didn't recognize this sedum? How does yours differ from the ones that he is familiar with?
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Aug 24, 2014 3:28 PM CST
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Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
Region: Ukraine Dahlias I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Houseplants Tomato Heads Garden Ideas: Level 1
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Mine is much taller. He said he'd never seen kamchaticum grow that tall. All of mine are the same height so it's not that it's an aberration.

One trader, from another site, had sent me many sedums. I will check out the names later as they appear on that site.
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Aug 24, 2014 3:34 PM CST
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Great idea Arlene.

I just came in from measuring the stems on my kamchaticum, they are 10 to 11 inches in length. It is growing in compacted old soil with no fertilizing.
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Aug 24, 2014 4:02 PM CST
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Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
Region: Ukraine Dahlias I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Houseplants Tomato Heads Garden Ideas: Level 1
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So it could be that you and I have the same mystery sedum: Sedum 'Alfred Hitchcock'.
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Aug 24, 2014 4:06 PM CST
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Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
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Mine is Phedimus kamchaticum, which used to be named Sedum kamchaticus. The botanical name has changed from Sedum to Phedimus.
It really is a wonderful plant. Mine grows outward from the center just like yours does. When young it is a mounded shape.
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Sep 1, 2014 7:14 AM CST
Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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Love the kamchaticum!! I have several different types, one called "gold carpet" because of its lovely spring blooms. Also I think that 'sweet and sour' is a kamchaticum and I have one from SMG succulents that is a variegated mini form (it grows to about 8inches) No photos though sorry Smiling If I remember I'll take some later today I tip my hat to you.
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Sep 1, 2014 8:12 AM CST
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Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
Region: Ukraine Dahlias I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Houseplants Tomato Heads Garden Ideas: Level 1
Plant Identifier Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015
I'd love to see the photos!
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Sep 1, 2014 10:11 AM CST
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Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
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I agree
Photos please Greg. Smiling
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Sep 2, 2014 9:05 PM CST
Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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Oh shucks I forgot to get photos...they aren't at my house, they are at my other planting location Sticking tongue out and it began raining today, if its not raining tomorrow, then I will take photos then!
Cheers

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