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Aug 23, 2014 7:50 AM CST
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Name: Jacquie (JB) Berger
Wrightstown, New Jersey (Zone 6b)

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The group Tmail in my private Tmail box was sent during the hours when my machine was turned off and I was not in my office. I live alone, so there was no one else using my computer.
I am concerned how this can happen and who could have hacked my TMail, if in fact that is what happened. I thought those Tmails had been removed by @Dave some time ago.
The only way I knew this happened was I got a copy of the Tmail in my inbox. Could someone please explain to me what may have happened? Thank you.
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Aug 23, 2014 10:57 AM CST
Name: greene
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JB, maybe someone sent you a T-mail as part of a group T-mail. ??
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Aug 23, 2014 11:13 AM CST
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Name: Jacquie (JB) Berger
Wrightstown, New Jersey (Zone 6b)

Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: United States of America Region: New Jersey Houseplants Container Gardener
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No....Greene....it was the entire Tmail as it was originally sent. Went to all I think 56 people. I had a response from one of them saying this has happened before and I am to notify Dave. Which I have done here on the site.
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Aug 23, 2014 11:14 AM CST
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Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
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I investigated and found it was an old tree mail that you (@JB) sent on August 3rd at 1:19pm (CDT).

It was dormant until this morning at 5:41am (CDT) when a recipient of the mail replied which bumped it back to the top for you to see.

Since I forget things I did yesterday, it's reasonable to presume you forgot composing and sending the original tree-mail almost 3 weeks ago.
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Aug 23, 2014 2:02 PM CST
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Name: Jacquie (JB) Berger
Wrightstown, New Jersey (Zone 6b)

Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: United States of America Region: New Jersey Houseplants Container Gardener
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dave said:I investigated and found it was an old tree mail that you (@JB) sent on August 3rd at 1:19pm (CDT).

It was dormant until this morning at 5:41am (CDT) when a recipient of the mail replied which bumped it back to the top for you to see.

Since I forget things I did yesterday, it's reasonable to presume you forgot composing and sending the original tree-mail almost 3 weeks ago.



That reply was not there this morning with the Tmail. The Tmail was alone in my box. I resent the Tmail to everyone and told them I had not sent it again because I did not want anyone getting upset with ATP for resending that TMail. That is when the reply came back telling me it happened before and I was to contact Dave. I saw that one. There was no other.

In fact, the Tmail we are talking about now, is GONE from my inbox AGAIN. Didn't you tell me and Cat weeks ago you deleted or removed them so all the 50 some people would not keep getting posts to us regarding their interest in MAG?

As long as I or ATP was not hacked, I will take the blame but not without exception. If I remember correctly, when we were sending those posts for the new Forum, I was having internet problems and one post went missing. Maybe that was the one? Thank you for your trouble and I do feel better knowing it was not something else.

For the record, both my long and short term memories are still in place....so the physicians tell me. Lovey dubby
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Aug 24, 2014 10:34 AM CST
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Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
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JB said:Didn't you tell me and Cat weeks ago you deleted or removed them so all the 50 some people would not keep getting posts to us regarding their interest in MAG?


I did remove that and it turns out that you created not one but TWO different tree mails, both weeks ago and both to a different bulk group of members. One was to around 50+ members and the other was to 70+ members.

So your second one (that got bumped by one of the recipients) was deleted by me last night when I learned about it.

I'm sorry this has caused you some anxiety.
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Aug 24, 2014 10:40 AM CST
Garden.org Admin
Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
Region: Texas Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Tomato Heads Vermiculture Garden Research Contributor
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Region: Ukraine Garden Sages
I have been doing a little investigating and I found a THIRD TREE MAIL from you! Now I'm wondering exactly how many you created. This one I just found was sent by @JB on August 1st, 2014 at 4:28pm CDT to 38 different members. I'm going to delete that one from the server too but I want you to see it first. It'll be in your tree mail somewhere.

I don't know why you created three different tree mails during that time span and it doesn't really matter to me. If you have any questions or want me to do any further investigation, let me know and I'll be glad to investigate.
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Aug 25, 2014 8:30 AM CST
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Name: Jacquie (JB) Berger
Wrightstown, New Jersey (Zone 6b)

Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: United States of America Region: New Jersey Houseplants Container Gardener
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dave said:I have been doing a little investigating and I found a THIRD TREE MAIL from you! Now I'm wondering exactly how many you created. This one I just found was sent by @JB on August 1st, 2014 at 4:28pm CDT to 38 different members. I'm going to delete that one from the server too but I want you to see it first. It'll be in your tree mail somewhere.

I don't know why you created three different tree mails during that time span and it doesn't really matter to me. If you have any questions or want me to do any further investigation, let me know and I'll be glad to investigate.


You are correct Dave, there were three if I remember. We were trying to reach people from the different areas of the Mid Atlantic using the membership list. There were many of them and both of us worked on them when we had time. Therefore, I worked on mine three times and sent three Tmails. The one as I remember disappeared and I was not sure if it was sent or not, but two went through, I think. Now the mystery is solved and there should not be any other group emails for that topic. Whhheeee, I am glad that mystery is solved. We were trying to reach all of our friends and those who we felt were here on ATP that may be interested in the MAG forum. There were so many it took three sittings to finish the list. Case Closed. Thank you so much for your time and effort. You are the best. Thumbs up
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Aug 25, 2014 8:33 AM CST
Garden.org Admin
Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
Region: Texas Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Tomato Heads Vermiculture Garden Research Contributor
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Region: Ukraine Garden Sages
Hurray! Thumbs up Thumbs up
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Aug 25, 2014 8:37 AM CST
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Name: Jacquie (JB) Berger
Wrightstown, New Jersey (Zone 6b)

Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: United States of America Region: New Jersey Houseplants Container Gardener
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I agree Thank You!
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