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Name: Matthew MacKay
West Covina, CA (Zone 10a)
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mattmackay22
Aug 28, 2014 3:51 PM CST
Hello there!
I have been desperately trying to identify this pink blend rose. Can you help me? Thank you! =)
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Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Aug 28, 2014 4:24 PM CST

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Hi, Matt. Welcome to ATP. It's really difficult to identify a rose on the basis of a few photos, especially a pink blend. It's a popular color combination and is common to hundreds (or maybe thousands) of cultivars. I noticed that you submitted a photo of it to the database as The Wedgwood Rose. Was that based on information you acquired, or did you just take a guess?
Name: Matthew MacKay
West Covina, CA (Zone 10a)
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mattmackay22
Aug 28, 2014 4:40 PM CST
Hi Zuzu!

I have done lots of research and the roses that have come closest to matching this one include:

Tiffany; Belinda's Dream; Whittle-Light-Pink; Hovyn de Tronchere; & Lady Mary Fitzwilliam.

I'm totally frazzled! haha! I bought the rose from Lowes and it didn't have a tag. I then called the nursery and the woman didn't help me at all. =( Still researching, but I definitely need help. Thank you! =)
Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Aug 28, 2014 4:59 PM CST

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I agree that it resembles all of these roses, but it's highly unlikely (almost impossible, in fact) that Lowe's would be carrying Hovyn de Tronchere, Lady Mary Fitzwilliam, or Whittle-Light-Pink (which is actually just another name for Lady Mary Fitzwilliam). Tiffany doesn't have as many petals as your rose, and it's a blend of several shades of pink with yellow undertones, whereas your rose appears to have some white, or at least the palest of pinks, at one stage of bloom. Belinda's Dream does have enough petals to qualify and can be quite changeable in its range of pink hues, so that's the best guess so far, but it's still only a guess. Smiling
Name: Matthew MacKay
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mattmackay22
Aug 28, 2014 5:40 PM CST
OMG! You are right! It makes sense to me now! It IS Belinda's Dream. I didn't think it was when I first researched it, but now it makes sense! Thank you so much! :D Thank You! Thumbs up

http://vbelleblog.com/2014/07/12/belindas-dream/
Name: Paul
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Paul2032
Aug 28, 2014 6:03 PM CST
I hate to be negative but it doesn't look like Belinda's Dream to me. Your rose is a mixture of various shades of light and dark pink.......a blend? The Belinda's Dream I've seen is more of a self....a more even shade of pink. Here in lays the problem in trying to ID a noid rose, iris, day lily, etc. It is a lovely rose Matt so grow it and enjoy it.
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Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Aug 28, 2014 6:22 PM CST

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Actually, there are photos all over the Web, including images in our own database, that illustrate the ability of Belinda's Dream to display several shades of pink.

Rose (Rosa 'Belinda's Dream')
Name: Matthew MacKay
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mattmackay22
Aug 28, 2014 7:15 PM CST
Hey Paul,
That honestly was my first inclination as well. The rose has the exact same shape as Belinda's Dream, but the color is especially unique: it starts off with a deep shade of pink with out petals having a creamy white color. As it ages, the pink spreads outward and fades gradually into a very light pink. :-)



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Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Aug 28, 2014 7:38 PM CST

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As I said, Belinda's Rose is a good guess, but it's still only a guess. Luckily, we have a few ways to narrow down the search. It's either classified as a medium pink or a pink blend; it appears to have more than 40 petals, but it might fall just short of 40 and be in the 25-40 category; and it has to be a rose Lowe's woukl be likely to carry. Does it have any other distinguishing features? Does it have a climbing habit, for instance? Are the blooms ever carried in clusters? Is it fragrant? Does it rebloom during the year?

When I search for medium pink roses with 25-40 petals, I see several that might be available at Lowe's.

Rose (Rosa 'Bewitched')

Rose (Rosa 'Eiffel Tower')

Rose (Rosa 'Jadis')

Rose (Rosa 'Perfume Delight')

Rose (Rosa 'Queen Elizabeth')

Rose (Rosa 'Unforgettable')

Changing the search criteria to "pink blend" or "more than 40 petals" would bring up a whole different list.

Name: Matthew MacKay
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mattmackay22
Aug 28, 2014 8:31 PM CST
Unforgettable definitely looks like a possibility as well!
Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Aug 28, 2014 8:43 PM CST

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It's a strong possibility. It's a popular rose, and the patent has expired, so Lowe's can carry it without the bother of having to pay royalties to the hybridizer.
Name: Matthew MacKay
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mattmackay22
Aug 28, 2014 9:10 PM CST
Thank you so much Zuzu! You're so knowledgeable! :-)
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Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Aug 28, 2014 9:12 PM CST

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I'm just a fool for roses. That's all. Smiling
Name: Matthew MacKay
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mattmackay22
Aug 29, 2014 12:21 AM CST
It's the Beverly Rose!!!! <3
http://thegardendiary.com/2013/06/28/a-rose-a-day-beverly/
Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Aug 29, 2014 12:41 AM CST

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Matt, I had noticed its resemblance to Beverly, but that rose wasn't even being sold on this continent until a couple of Canadian nurseries started selling it a couple of years ago, so I disqualified it. Smiling When did you buy it? Was it a relatively high-priced selection at Lowe's? It's been around in Europe for more than a decade, but it's almost brand new here.
Name: Matthew MacKay
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mattmackay22
Aug 29, 2014 12:43 AM CST
It was only $12. That's the closest match I've seen though. I'm so puzzled. :(
Name: Lyn
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RoseBlush1
Aug 29, 2014 12:55 AM CST
Zuzu ...

I don't know if this helps, but Kordes has been wholesaling some of their older roses to the big box stores.

Smiles,
Lyn
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Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Aug 29, 2014 1:30 AM CST

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I hate losing my posts! I scrolled up and clicked on one of the photos and lost the post I'd been composing.

What I said was that $12 sounds semi-expensive for Lowe's, but I haven't been to Lowe's for a while. If I go there next season, I'll see whether they're carrying Beverly.

It is an older (1999) Kordes rose, so Lyn's information could cover it. Thanks, Lyn.
Name: Matthew MacKay
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mattmackay22
Aug 29, 2014 1:50 AM CST
Thank you both so much! Please keep me advised if you find out more! Hurray!
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Mike
Aug 29, 2014 6:38 PM CST
Matt, where are you located? Assuming your local Lowe's would only sell roses that would withstand your geographic hardiness zone, it might help narrow the search.

Edited to say that I just noticed the metadata for your uploaded photographs is West Covina, CA. If that's the case, it may not help narrow it down. If you had been in, say, upstate New York, we might have been able to eliminate a few of the less hardy cultivars.
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