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Sep 1, 2014 2:51 PM CST
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Name: Joe
Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
Lilies Region: New York Seed Starter Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Level 1
Yesterday the wife accidentally knocked off a swelled up seed pod of a cross I did. There was a decent amount of pedicel length left on so I cut it on a 45 degree angle and put it in a potato to hopefully allow it to mature. It was 'carte Blanche' x 'mister Cas' and it was looking good so I wanted to save it. We'll see. I'll keep you updated.
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Sep 1, 2014 3:41 PM CST
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Never heard of this application. Hope it works.
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Sep 1, 2014 3:56 PM CST
Name: Debra
Garland, TX (NE Dallas suburb) (Zone 8a)
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Be interested to see the results, too.
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Sep 1, 2014 5:31 PM CST
Name: della
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Thanks for sharing the process. Good luck with it!
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Sep 1, 2014 6:08 PM CST
Name: Lorn (Roosterlorn)
S.E Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Oh, I've heard of it but never had an occasion to use it. They say it works! But I thought the potato was also supposed to be partially submerged in a moist media.
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Sep 1, 2014 6:17 PM CST
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Name: Connie
Willamette Valley OR (Zone 8a)
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I've done this before (successfully). Haven't heard about keeping the spud wet though...
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Sep 1, 2014 6:59 PM CST
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Name: Joe
Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
Lilies Region: New York Seed Starter Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Level 1
Any tips Connie? Darm Crook said that every week and a half I should push it a little deeper to prevent callousing.
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Sep 1, 2014 7:12 PM CST
Name: Rick R.
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Darm is the champion of the potato nursery. I remember him saying that there are only two lily species that naturally mature seedpods in the Northwest Territories (Canada) where he lives. When you think about all the seed he produces, he could have more potato experience than the rest of the world put together!
I've never had the need to try it.
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Sep 1, 2014 7:22 PM CST
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Name: Joe
Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
Lilies Region: New York Seed Starter Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Level 1
Realistically, it is not an "amazing" cross (that I know of) but I figured why not try it, being that the pod was swelled nicely and it was something I was looking foward to.
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Sep 1, 2014 8:31 PM CST
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Name: Connie
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Pretty much what Darm said, since I learned from him on a previous yahoo post (a few years ago).
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Sep 5, 2014 5:45 AM CST
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Good luck, Joe! Keep us updated on the progress.
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Sep 12, 2014 10:30 PM CST
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Name: Connie
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So how has the potato trick been coming along?
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Sep 13, 2014 7:27 AM CST
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I was curious about that too. How long does it take to allow ripening?
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Sep 13, 2014 4:03 PM CST
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Name: Joe
Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
Lilies Region: New York Seed Starter Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Level 1
I'm just winging it guys. So far so good. A few days after I started it I noticed the pedicel was a little loose in the potato so I took it out, cut a little more off and stuck it in a new spot. So far so good. The pod is still looking green and fairly turgid.
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Sep 13, 2014 4:10 PM CST
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Name: Connie
Willamette Valley OR (Zone 8a)
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Sounds good. That is what I did with mine.
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Oct 3, 2014 10:30 PM CST
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Willamette Valley OR (Zone 8a)
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Do you have an update, Joe?
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Oct 4, 2014 1:20 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Joe
Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
Lilies Region: New York Seed Starter Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Level 1
Still going good. Seems like it may be starting to dry a bit.
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Oct 24, 2014 7:58 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Joe
Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
Lilies Region: New York Seed Starter Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Level 1
Well the good news is the potato trick worked. Bad news is that there was only one viable seed and the embryo was actually sticking out of the seed so it went to the chaff pile. I would do it again if circumstances warrant it though.
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Oct 24, 2014 8:57 AM CST
Name: Rick R.
Minneapolis,MN, USA z4b,Dfb/a
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Joebass said:Bad news is that there was only one viable seed and the embryo was actually sticking out of the seed so it went to the chaff pile.

So was the embryo growing?
I have seen dried Lilium seeds with the embryo poking out of the endosperm, but never thought anything detrimental was happening. It's very common for embryos to naturally position themselves at the edge of the seed in myriads of genera throughout the plant world. With lilies it tends to show itself in seed batches where all the seeds lean toward that trait in varying degrees. No evidence to back up whether the poked out ones were good or not, though.
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Oct 24, 2014 9:09 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Joe
Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
Lilies Region: New York Seed Starter Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Level 1
The endosperm seemed a little abnormal and the embryo was sticking out about an 1/8 inch but didn't appear actively growing. I probably should have taken a picture.

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