Catfacing in Tomatoes: Why is it called catfacing?

Views: 606, Replies: 9 » Jump to the end
Catfacing  in Tomatoes

By Paul2032
September 3, 2014

Sometimes when we pick a tomato we find an ugly deformation. This is called a "catface" or "catfacing".

[View the item] Give a thumbs up

Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Region: Texas Master Gardener: Texas Permaculture Raises cows I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Ideas: Master Level Beekeeper Garden Sages Avid Green Pages Reviewer Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier
Image
dave
Sep 2, 2014 7:40 PM CST

Garden.org Admin

I never knew why it was called that. It doesn't look like a cat's face to me.
Name: Brian
Mendocino county, California (Zone 8b)
Plant and/or Seed Trader Pollen collector Region: California Farmer Vegetable Grower Lilies
Butterflies Garden Ideas: Level 1
Image
Chickensonmars
Sep 2, 2014 7:51 PM CST
The above photo is of Blossom-end Rot.
Catfacing is quite different and often looks like the face of a cat.
Wated! Seeds of species Hippeastrum, Lilium and Narcissus. Contact me anytime.

Little boxes on the hillside, little boxes made of ticky-tacky...
Name: Greene
Savannah, GA (Sunset 28) (Zone 8b)
Rabbit Keeper Critters Allowed Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages
Herbs Region: Georgia Region: United States of America Native Plants and Wildflowers Dog Lover Composter
Image
greene
Sep 2, 2014 7:51 PM CST
Someone with a vivid imaginatin posted a picture to help us see what catfacing looks like.
Look halfway down the page here: http://forums.seedsavers.org/forum/gardening/tomatoes/1496-d...
Sunset Zone 28, AHS Heat Zone 9, USDA zone 8b~~"Leaf of Faith"
Name: Paul
Utah (Zone 5b)
Grandchildren are my greatest joy.
Charter ATP Member Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Annuals Echinacea Vegetable Grower Hybridizer
Tomato Heads Garden Photography Birds Cut Flowers Foliage Fan Plays in the sandbox
Image
Paul2032
Sep 2, 2014 8:20 PM CST
I do not think it is rot because it is firm and dry...to me rot is moist. I have always thought the name came because it looks like a catfaced spider.....perhaps this is one of those situations where a term commonly used for many years in one section of the country doesn't ring true somewhere else.
Paul Smith Pleasant Grove, Utah
[Last edited by Paul2032 - Sep 2, 2014 8:43 PM (+)]
Give a thumbs up | Quote | Post #692414 (4)
Name: Greene
Savannah, GA (Sunset 28) (Zone 8b)
Rabbit Keeper Critters Allowed Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages
Herbs Region: Georgia Region: United States of America Native Plants and Wildflowers Dog Lover Composter
Image
greene
Sep 2, 2014 9:36 PM CST
This site has images of blossom end rot both the wet-looking type and the dry, like Paul2032's photo has, and several photos of examples of catfacing. Catfacing is still a funny term and I do wonder where it originated.

http://www.maine.gov/dacf/php/gotpests/diseases/tomato-probl...
Sunset Zone 28, AHS Heat Zone 9, USDA zone 8b~~"Leaf of Faith"
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
Charter ATP Member Celebrating Gardening: 2015 I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped beta test the first seed swap Region: United States of America Region: Michigan
Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Birds Butterflies Dog Lover Cat Lover
Image
Weedwhacker
Sep 3, 2014 7:15 AM CST
Greene, thanks for that link, very informative... and actually Paul's photo looks to me like what they show as sunscald.
"Blessed is he who has learned to laugh at himself, for he shall never cease to be entertained."
- John Powell / Cubits.org - A Universe of Communities
/ Share your recipes: Favorite Recipes A-Z cubit
C/F temp conversion / NGA Member Map
Name: Greene
Savannah, GA (Sunset 28) (Zone 8b)
Rabbit Keeper Critters Allowed Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages
Herbs Region: Georgia Region: United States of America Native Plants and Wildflowers Dog Lover Composter
Image
greene
Sep 3, 2014 7:20 AM CST
(Edit to add: Cross posted, sorry. I'm still stuck on the word 'catface'.)

Still research 'catface/catfacing'. Not just for tomatoes.Searching for the word/term catface, catfacing, cat face, cat facing, catface, cat facing I am told first of all that it is currently an urban slang word best not explained to young people here.

I find some sources say the first use of the word was 1940 referring to deformed fruit.

But a book/booklet "Consumers' Guide Index Consumers' counsel of the Agricultural adjustment administration - was in print in 1935. Mentions 'catface' and growth cracks in tomatoes.

Further back to 1931, catface is mentioned in an agricultural publication: Miscellaneous Publication U.S. Department of Agriculture, 1931

There is a reference to 'catfacing' to mean a pucker left in a garment as a result of poor ironing/pressing but that was 1952, possibly the garment's owner was a fruit grower or turpentiner. Rolling on the floor laughing

See this link for the turpentine industry. Charles Herty's new system to collect pine sap; the term 'catface' was coined in or about 1901 and referred to the scars which resembled cat's whiskers, left by cutting into the pine trees .
http://www.sfrc.ufl.edu/extension/4h/foresthealth/stress/cat...

Does the term 'catface' go back any further?
Sunset Zone 28, AHS Heat Zone 9, USDA zone 8b~~"Leaf of Faith"
[Last edited by greene - Sep 3, 2014 7:21 AM (+)]
Give a thumbs up | Quote | Post #692553 (7)
Name: Paul
Utah (Zone 5b)
Grandchildren are my greatest joy.
Charter ATP Member Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Annuals Echinacea Vegetable Grower Hybridizer
Tomato Heads Garden Photography Birds Cut Flowers Foliage Fan Plays in the sandbox
Image
Paul2032
Sep 3, 2014 7:55 AM CST
Great discussion everyone.......I doubt that it is sunscald as those tomatoes were picked out of the center of some very large plants with very dense and heavy foliage.


Paul Smith Pleasant Grove, Utah
Name: Horseshoe Griffin
Efland, NC (Zone 7a)
And in the end...a happy beginning!
Charter ATP Member I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle Garden Sages I sent a postcard to Randy! I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
For our friend, Shoe. Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Enjoys or suffers cold winters Birds Permaculture Container Gardener
Image
Horseshoe
Sep 3, 2014 9:05 AM CST
I always wondered why the name "catface" came into being, too, in relation to tomatoes anyway. I've been accused of having a catface expression before, especially after sucking on a persimmon too early in the year, before it sweetens up.

The picture shown doesn't look like blossom end rot (BER) to me as it normally starts out black if coming from within (internal BER) or may be whitish but normally has a dark outline. Nor does it look like sunscald, especially being on the bottom side of the tomato where the sun doesn't hit. It kinda looks like slugs have been munching on those tomatoes though but who knows...if I were a slug I'd lay down and rest on the top of the tomato and chew away! Smiling

All in all, methinks we should add some tomato pics w/catfacing to the database!
Good tip, Paul!

Shoe (with few red tomatoes left but plenty of green ones to be fried!)

Name: Ken Ramsey
Starkville, MS (Zone 8a)
[url=www.tropicalplantsandmore.com]
Orchids Greenhouse Vegetable Grower Ferns Region: United States of America Hummingbirder
Composter Bromeliad Master Gardener: Mississippi Cat Lover Tropicals Plumerias
Image
drdawg
Sep 3, 2014 9:57 AM CST
Good link, Greene.
drdawg (Ken Ramsey) - Tropical Plants & More
[url=www.tropicalplantsandmore.com]www.tropicalplantsandmore.com[/url]
If God wanted me to touch my toes, he would have put them on my knees.

« Garden.org Homepage
« Back to the top
« Forums List
« Catfacing in Tomatoes
You must first create a username and login before you can reply to this thread.

Today's site banner is by Baja_Costero and is called "Agave"