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Sep 15, 2014 6:41 AM CST
Name: Lorn (Roosterlorn)
S.E Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
Bee Lover Lilies Pollen collector Seed Starter Region: Wisconsin
Keith, don't let all these fancy technical terms and genetic language discourage you from cross pollinating and seeding. Set them aside for the time being, there will be plenty of time to learn about each of them over time, That's how I learned--over time, and over a very long time at that. I started cross pollenating lilies back in late 1980's. Back then, if I had questions, it took me a long time to get answers and many times I had to find the answers myself by trial and error, just like your first experience this year. There was no internet, no Connie, Rick, Tracey, Joe, Della or Anthony and so on that I could turn to for quick answers and information back then. But even with all this 'fast information' we have today, I still think learning the technicalities over time as one gains experience is the best way. At least for now, you'll know a little bit about these terms and rules. Later on and gradually, you'll see other terms too, like F1, F2, clone, strain and so on. One by one, over the next couple years or so you'll learn them all if you stick with us. If you like lilies, then cross pollinating and seeding them is one of the most enjoyable aspects of growing lilies. It makes growing lilies a 365 day a year hobby--always something going on all the time! It's getting late in the year for hypogeal seed planting now. It's time to start thinking about preparing for Spring planting of epigeal type (which most commercial lilies are). If you'd like, I'm sure many of us have lots of extra epigeal seed of some nice crosses that we would be happy to send you to get you started.

Also, one of the best books on lilies is one by Edward Austin McRae titled 'LILIES, a guide for growers and collectors'. It explains everything from A to Z, including pollenating and seed planting. It's out of print now, but you can usually find one on Ebay for less than $10.00. If not, I have an extra copy I'd be happy to loan you for a year or so. Just let me know by Tree Mail (the little envelope in the upper left corner). Smiling
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Sep 15, 2014 10:30 AM CST
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Name: Connie
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I hope to have lots of seeds to share around this year. I have also had my share of chaff filled pods. I also have many tags out there where no pod formed at all. That's the way it goes (at least with me).
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Sep 15, 2014 11:46 AM CST
Name: Øystein Hermansen
Østfold,Norway (Zone 5b)
Me too. It sounds very familiar. Smiling
Ille bra,se.
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Sep 15, 2014 12:17 PM CST
Name: Joe
Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
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Many tags with no pods for me too. Some interesting things have happened as well. I got many seeds from 'Candlestick'. It's supposedly an LO which I thought were fairly sterile but something OP it and I got a bunch of good seeds from it.
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Sep 15, 2014 8:38 PM CST
Name: Lorn (Roosterlorn)
S.E Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
Bee Lover Lilies Pollen collector Seed Starter Region: Wisconsin
No tags without nice pods, but a couple pods with blank tags. And two pods without tags at all, but I've got a pretty good idea what those are. The next hurdle is to see if I get good seed. I've got 31pods but most of them have a long way to go before they get ripe. Usually the last 10 days of October is the busy seed picking time here. Looking back at my pollination schedule that I made out last winter, I see I only made crosses on about half of those I had originally planned to make for various reasons; the biggest of which was how impressed I was over the two new hybrids originating from Len Sherman that he named Taos and Whiskey Creek (Trumpet-Aurelian). I have 9 crosses alone on a few of each of these two, including pollen from highly fertile Serena Green and George C. Creelman crosses. Pollen from Taos and Whiskey Creek accounted for 7 more crosses with other Trumpet-Aurelian hybrids of mine. My original planned list had 40 crosses on it. Somewhere between 30 and 40 crosses a year works out about right for my set up and the way I do things around here. Smiling
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Nov 12, 2014 2:49 PM CST
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Name: Keith
Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
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Wanted to update.

My last pod matured, and I hit the jackpot! Pod parent is lilium lancifolium (tiger lily), seed parent is this Lily which I Think is asiatic. http://www.projectnoah.org/spo...

Seed pod was Huge, and has over 150 seeds, most have an embryo and the seeds are very large! Will these be epigeal germination? I'm hoping to give some seed away and spread the joy to other Lily fanatics!
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Nov 12, 2014 6:04 PM CST
Name: Rick R.
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Congratulations! Have you been lurking on our Starting Lilies from Seed thread to find out about embryos? Good for you! Hurray!
It's unusual to have a high rate of success with any 3n lily pod parent, but I won't say it's not possible.

Seeds will germinate immediate epigeal.
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Nov 12, 2014 6:14 PM CST
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Name: Keith
Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
Zinnias Plays in the sandbox Roses Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Organic Gardener
Region: New York Native Plants and Wildflowers Lilies Seed Starter Spiders! Enjoys or suffers hot summers
Leftwood said:Congratulations! Have you been lurking on our Starting Lilies from Seed thread to find out about embryos? Good for you! Hurray!
It's unusual to have a high rate of success with any 3n lily pod parent, but I won't say it's not possible.

Seeds will germinate immediate epigeal.


Yes I've been lurking to learn more about it. Smiling was the Orange Lily asiatic, so I know what to tell people I give seeds.
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Nov 13, 2014 4:41 PM CST
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Name: Keith
Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
Zinnias Plays in the sandbox Roses Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Organic Gardener
Region: New York Native Plants and Wildflowers Lilies Seed Starter Spiders! Enjoys or suffers hot summers
keithp2012 said:Wanted to update.

My last pod matured, and I hit the jackpot! Pod parent is lilium lancifolium (tiger lily), seed parent is this Lily which I Think is asiatic. http://www.projectnoah.org/spo...

Seed pod was Huge, and has over 150 seeds, most have an embryo and the seeds are very large! Will these be epigeal germination? I'm hoping to give some seed away and spread the joy to other Lily fanatics!


Here's a photo, most are good, and huge!

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Nov 14, 2014 3:38 AM CST
Name: Øystein Hermansen
Østfold,Norway (Zone 5b)
They look great.
Ille bra,se.

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