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Sep 17, 2014 8:59 AM CST
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I need serious guidance!

I have been on the fence because I am afraid I will have a "bad spell" at the wrong time for the bees.
I have a problem with anxiety & depression. I haven't had a very long "bad spell" in quite awhile, but when I get them I just don't step out the door unless I need food or something.

Yesterday at the farmers' market I met a veggie vendor who is also a beekeeper. Our conversation convinced me that my entire neighborhood NEEDS me to get a beehive. There aren't any here AT ALL. I saw NOT ONE this season. And there are noticeably few other pollinators, which I can plant for. I will have to import some bees.

What I need to know is the MINIMAL work that needs to be done, and what time of year. If I think I can handle that, I will do it. If not, I won't. I'd hate to let them die!!! Crying I HOPE to be able to be really involved, but I need to know if I just shouldn't risk it.

It would also be nice to know who the members are who are actually beekeepers and like to mentor......

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Sep 18, 2014 1:34 PM CST
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Name: Margaret
Delta KY
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Honey bees can pretty much survive without us humans. Mainly what they need a beekeeper to do is keep an eye out for problems. Generally about 40 hours per SEASON is enough time a beekeeper needs to invest.

I'm no beekeeper Smiling I'm just the wife of one so any beekeeping questions I can't answer I just ask my husband. I do garden for them though and there's plenty of articles in the Ideas section about the forage they like.

There are other members who keep bees or have kept them so I'm sure any questions you have will get answered.

I hope that pushes you off that fence on the side of getting the bees.
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Sep 18, 2014 4:15 PM CST
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Thank you Mindy.
You seem to be the most vocal bee person here.
I wondered if there were any others at all until I saw there was a forum.....

I figured the bees could make it on their own unless we HUMANS had made them less able to.
Farmers' market guy said something about medications and preparing for winter, and I got nervous.
Mind you, I CAN do most things most times, I just have little control about when I may "shut down" for a bit.

I'm trying to get in touch about the mentoring thing with BurghBees - the link seems to be broken on their site and I've reported it.
And I'll ask the farmers' market guy some more coherent questions this coming Tuesday.

Thanks for speaking up - the rest of you come out of hiding, eh? Blinking
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Sep 18, 2014 4:51 PM CST
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Name: Margaret
Delta KY
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Forum moderator I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Beekeeper
Seed Starter Permaculture Region: Kentucky Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Garden Ideas: Master Level
The guy at the Farmers Market is actally your best source of information because he lives in the area. That means he knows what you will have to deal with.

Getting them ready for winter is no big deal. Mainly means making sure they have enough food stores to get them through.
The medications are no big deal either they come with instructions for use.

Dave is one of our beekeepers on here and if you check the other threads in this forum you'll discover others.
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Sep 18, 2014 5:30 PM CST
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Cool.

Yeah, I knew farmers' market guy can tell me about the seasonal timing and stuff.
And he certainly knows his stuff. He seems to be an active member of Burgh Bees and possibly an outreach person.

After I asked a very general "how much work..." and he answered with some facts, I mentioned I was afraid I'd not be there for them when they needed me and he said something about "if you're not dedicated enough..." And I corrected him - "It's more of a health problem than a dedication one....." But it was funny. Y'know what he sounded like? He sounded like a volunteer at an animal shelter who wasn't quite sure the person he was talking to was "good enough" to take home a poor defenseless puppy. Hilarious!
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Sep 18, 2014 5:51 PM CST
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I don't monitor my hives, although I know I should, and eventually I'll run into a problem that I could have caught early but didn't. Generally I only open my hives a few times a year. I check them every 6 weeks or so during the growing season. It's not ideal but it has worked for a long time for us. I feel like in your case if you went a very long time (several months) without checking the hives they'd probably be okay.
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Sep 18, 2014 10:26 PM CST
Name: Toni Melvin
Sherwood Oregon (Zone 8a)
Beekeeper Region: Pacific Northwest Permaculture Organic Gardener Region: Oregon Native Plants and Wildflowers
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@crittergarden

I just now saw this thread ~ not that I can give you any guidance, but I sure think I can give you encouragement. I absolutely LOVE having my honeybees. I don’t interfere much at all with my honeybees. They are almost completely left to live their life on their own. I do go out my back door almost everyday and watch them for a few minutes, just because I love it. My goal here is to do things naturally, no chemicals, and only slight intervention. I remind myself that bees have survived for thousands of years all on their own. So, if I provide them with a safe house, water and food sources they will take care of the rest. So far it has worked for me.

They are truly amazing creatures.
Toni
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Sep 19, 2014 5:46 AM CST
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dave said:I don't monitor my hives, although I know I should, and eventually I'll run into a problem that I could have caught early but didn't. Generally I only open my hives a few times a year. I check them every 6 weeks or so during the growing season. It's not ideal but it has worked for a long time for us. I feel like in your case if you went a very long time (several months) without checking the hives they'd probably be okay.


Dave, that it wonderful to hear!
@gleni - did you hear that?
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Sep 19, 2014 5:53 AM CST
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Toni said: @crittergarden

I just now saw this thread ~ not that I can give you any guidance, but I sure think I can give you encouragement. I absolutely LOVE having my honeybees. I don’t interfere much at all with my honeybees. They are almost completely left to live their life on their own. I do go out my back door almost everyday and watch them for a few minutes, just because I love it. My goal here is to do things naturally, no chemicals, and only slight intervention. I remind myself that bees have survived for thousands of years all on their own. So, if I provide them with a safe house, water and food sources they will take care of the rest. So far it has worked for me.

They are truly amazing creatures.


And thank YOU too, Toni.

Gosh I was all worried. When I searched up the "how to" it seemed so complicated!!!
And Farmers' Market guy worried me even more!
Now it's off the the "can I afford it" part of the quest.

Anybody got a minimal equipment list?
I know where to get a hive full of bees, so I won't be building my own or anything.
(I think Mindy sent me one a couple of years ago - I'll have to look for that. BUT I'd like opinions from several people....)
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Sep 19, 2014 7:09 AM CST
Name: Glen Ingram
Macleay Is, Qld, Australia (Zone 12a)
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Yes, Critter, I am following. This is good info and reassuring! Okay, I will give it ago next month. I will see if I can get a hive on the island. I know where I can get one on the mainland but I would have to bring it back in the car ferry. They might freak on the passenger ferry. Smiling
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Sep 19, 2014 7:11 AM CST
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Surprisingly GREEN Pittsburgh (Zone 6a)
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Hilarious!
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Sep 21, 2014 2:52 PM CST
Name: Toni Melvin
Sherwood Oregon (Zone 8a)
Beekeeper Region: Pacific Northwest Permaculture Organic Gardener Region: Oregon Native Plants and Wildflowers
Canning and food preservation Herbs Composter Bee Lover Vermiculture Garden Ideas: Level 1
Someone here on ATP posted a link to directions on how to keep bees dry overwinter. Here in Oregon that is a must nodding so I popped one out in just a few minutes.
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And here it is filled with wood chips that will collect the condensation that collects on the inside ceiling of the hive Hurray!
I will keep an eye on the girls this winter and see if it works like I think it will.

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Sep 21, 2014 3:10 PM CST
Name: Toni Melvin
Sherwood Oregon (Zone 8a)
Beekeeper Region: Pacific Northwest Permaculture Organic Gardener Region: Oregon Native Plants and Wildflowers
Canning and food preservation Herbs Composter Bee Lover Vermiculture Garden Ideas: Level 1
Oh my gosh! So sorry for the garden shoe in the above photo *Blush*
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Sep 21, 2014 4:13 PM CST
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Nothing at all wrong with a good garden shoe!!!
Hilarious!
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Sep 21, 2014 5:59 PM CST
Name: Glen Ingram
Macleay Is, Qld, Australia (Zone 12a)
(Lee Reinke X Rose F Kennedy) X Unk
Amaryllis Hybridizer Canning and food preservation Lilies Native Plants and Wildflowers Orchids
Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Pollen collector Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Plays in the sandbox Sedums Seed Starter
I posted one with flip flops visible recently. *Blush*
The problem is that when you are young your life it is ruined by your parents. When you are older it is ruined by your children.
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Sep 21, 2014 6:03 PM CST
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Adds pizzaz.
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Sep 21, 2014 6:06 PM CST
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Good morning, Gleni.
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Sep 21, 2014 10:06 PM CST
Name: Glen Ingram
Macleay Is, Qld, Australia (Zone 12a)
(Lee Reinke X Rose F Kennedy) X Unk
Amaryllis Hybridizer Canning and food preservation Lilies Native Plants and Wildflowers Orchids
Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Pollen collector Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Plays in the sandbox Sedums Seed Starter
Good afternoon Critter. I had a quick nap.
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Sep 22, 2014 8:39 AM CST
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Smiling
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Sep 23, 2014 6:06 PM CST
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Saw farmers' market guy again today.
He's offered to look up some prices for me to get me a ballpark figure.
He makes it sound SO EXPENSIVE though!
But he's rattling off equipment names I don't know and talking pretty fast.
The email will help.

His off the cuff estimate was $700 - and I just don''t reside in that economic class!!!!

But we shall see.

I assured him I have no desire to sell honey and only need a minimal hive for my own garden, hoping he'll take some stuff OFF the list!!!
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