Plant ID forum: Fuchsia?????????

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crittergarden
Sep 27, 2014 4:04 PM CST
Is it even possible that this is a fuchsia that came up by itself at an abandoned house in Pittsburgh??
The flowers are closed but they are obviously tubular and believe me they are a deep hot pink when in the sun!

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plantladylin
Sep 27, 2014 4:06 PM CST
Looks like Four o'Clocks (Mirabilis jalapa) to my eyes.
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crittergarden
Sep 27, 2014 4:08 PM CST
Wow, you were RIGHT there when I posted!!!
I'll look that up -
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crittergarden
Sep 27, 2014 4:13 PM CST
You may be right.
I think the seeds from mine are larger than the seeds in the post by @flaflwrgrl
But @zencat has that shot of the hummingbird that looks REALLY right.

And Marvel of Peru (Mirabilis jalapa) says zone 7!!!!
This plant came up on a northeast facing wall of a house on a north facing hill!!

I'll leave the question open to others until I'm sure.
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plantladylin
Sep 27, 2014 4:21 PM CST
Critter, Four O'clocks are considered an annual in far northern zones; but the plants readily set seeds; so, save those seeds for next season. Green Grin!

And, I've seen seeds of all sizes on M. jalapa
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flaflwrgrl
Sep 27, 2014 5:11 PM CST
I say that's Four O'clock. No doubt about it. Lucky you finding fuchsia ones! My seed photo was of the seeds from a package I had bought @ Dollar Store & no doubt were not "the pick of the litter" so I'm not surprised your seeds are larger but the seeds are very distinctive in shape.
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kylaluaz
Sep 27, 2014 5:53 PM CST
I also recognized those seeds as M. jalapa. Pretty plant; good find!
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Zencat
Sep 27, 2014 9:25 PM CST
No doubt about it, that IS Mirabilis jalapa. Good find!
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ShadyGreenThumb
Sep 27, 2014 9:27 PM CST
On that note and slightly off topic, I always have spare seeds from my fuchsia 4 O'clocks. If anyone wants seeds, Tree Mail me.
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Weedwhacker
Sep 27, 2014 9:35 PM CST
Yes, that looks EXACTLY like the one (!) Four O'Clock that I was able to germinate out of 12 seeds... and which actually opens its flowers at more like 10:00 (a.m.), not 4:00 !! Rolling my eyes.
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ShadyGreenThumb
Sep 27, 2014 9:43 PM CST
Funny, Sandy. Mine open up around 6 pm. I wonder what time zone they are on?? The flowers smell divine! The plant forms huuuuuge bulbs, some larger than a cantaloupe! My seeds self-germinate and I am constantly pulling up volunteers.
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Weedwhacker
Sep 27, 2014 9:48 PM CST
"The plant forms huuuuuge bulbs"

Yes, I've read that they make big tubers -- I wonder if I could over-winter them like dahlias? (Mine is in a pot this year, so I'm not at all sure that it has much in the way of tubers, but for future reference...)
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greene
Sep 28, 2014 6:05 AM CST
Yep, it Four O'Clocks for sure.
I collect seeds from several places in and around Savannah, that pink color is popular here; offer them for trade during the Piggy Seed Swap on Cubits.
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Zencat
Sep 28, 2014 6:07 AM CST
Mine overwintered just fine in the ground. We get frozen ground in winter and these came back. I never saved any seeds tho.
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crittergarden
Sep 28, 2014 6:13 AM CST
Well OK then!
Mirabilis it is!
I'm still astonished to have found it on that seriously exposed North wall!!
It survived, either as seed or bulb the polar vortex winter that killed all my buddleia (lower zone tolerance in more protected area)!

And you betcha I'm saving seeds!
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crittergarden
Sep 28, 2014 6:24 AM CST
greene said:Yep, it Four O'Clocks for sure.
I collect seeds from several places in and around Savannah, that pink color is popular here; offer them for trade during the Piggy Seed Swap on Cubits.


I only have 5 seeds!!! Hilarious!
But after I grow it here next year, I'll have more!
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plantladylin
Sep 28, 2014 7:25 AM CST
Four O'clocks became very invasive at our old house. Some of the tubers do get really huge and very heavy. We dug out many of them a few years ago that spread about 8 feet from our fence out to the street and through the side and back yard along the entire length of the backyard. They sure were pretty but began to take over and cover other shorter plants killing them out. We had lots of the dark pink variety but there were hundreds and hundreds of the white flowering ones which seemed to get a lot taller and the tubers were a lot larger also. These are some of the smaller tubers that we dug up and a photo of the pink variety:
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Weedwhacker
Sep 28, 2014 7:35 AM CST
Lin, it wouldn't take Mother Nature long to completely take over Florida if the residents didn't keep fighting her back! (ditto for the other southern states as well...)
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plantladylin
Sep 28, 2014 7:40 AM CST
Weedwhacker said:It wouldn't take Mother Nature long to completely take over Florida if the residents didn't keep fighting her back!
I agree I've lived in Florida for 47 years and it's a never ending battle ... and don't even get me started on the subject of weeds! Grumbling

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flaflwrgrl
Sep 28, 2014 7:41 AM CST
True, true.
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