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Long Island, NY (Zone 6b)
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MargieNY
Sep 30, 2014 6:57 PM CST
Aside from Palatine Roses, can someone please give me a list of other companies that sell grafted roses? Thanks a bunch in advance
Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Sep 30, 2014 7:13 PM CST

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Regan's a good nursery, and most of their roses are grafted:

http://www.regannursery.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/home.home/i...

Rosemania's good. They haven't listed their roses for this season yet, but it'll be any day now:

http://rosemania.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/page12.html
Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Sep 30, 2014 7:16 PM CST

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S&W isn't quite as good as the other two, but most of the roses I've bought from them have been fine.

http://www.sw-greenhouse.com/

I hesitate to recommend any others. Edmunds' Roses is on a downhill slide, and Hortico is more often bad than good.
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MargieNY
Sep 30, 2014 9:18 PM CST
Thank you "very" much. Have you ever bought from http://www.kandmroses.com/ ?
I want to replace most of the own root roses that I bought 3 years ago. It's impossible for me to evaluate why most of these own roots are not thriving. I don't know whether it's the rose itself or the grower or my climate. Most of them have only one or two canes. I don't know how to explain this - it's really weird - a new cane will appear and meanwhile another cane will die on the same plant. So you end up with no more than one or two canes - period. It was a huge waste of time (the older you get the faster time seems to fly). I guess to sum it up, I was disappointed. However, the grafted roses I bought from Palatine Roses last year and this Spring were fantastic. I am pre-digging the holes in preparation of receiving my next order.
Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Sep 30, 2014 10:27 PM CST

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K and M Roses are fabulous! They're grafted onto fortuniana, however, which is only good for hotter zones. You're in New York, aren't you? They may not work well for you.
Long Island, NY (Zone 6b)
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MargieNY
Oct 1, 2014 12:04 AM CST
I spoke with a gentleman from Southampton NY which is 30 miles southeast of here. He has a huge rose garden and he recommended K &M roses to me. He told me they used fortuniana. Patrick said, "they take off wonderfully". He invited me out to see his garden which would have been most helpful to me. Unfortunately my youngest sister passed away on Easter and I just didn't have it in me to go visiting anyone. I decided to design and dedicate a garden in memory of my sister. She loved flowers esp. roses and irises.
I have to prune an older Blaze climber this coming Spring (a old thick cane). What do you use to seal off roses? Is Elmer's glue OK?
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Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Oct 1, 2014 12:31 AM CST

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I'm sorry for your loss. The irises are beautiful!

I never seal the canes of my roses, so I can't give you any advice on that.
Long Island, NY (Zone 6b)
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MargieNY
Oct 1, 2014 1:04 AM CST
Well, that makes two of us - lol. I never sealed them before. It was mentioned in a couple of posts on a rose forum and in a you tube video on pruning. Regan certainly has a nice selection - sure is fun shopping for roses.
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Frillylily
Oct 1, 2014 9:37 AM CST
you can buy a spray in a can that is for sealing trees after pruning, I would think it would be ok for roses, but I have never used it on them. It is a black color when you spray it.
Long Island, NY (Zone 6b)
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MargieNY
Oct 1, 2014 12:40 PM CST
Thanks for the tip Frillylily. On one of the rose forums they mentioned using Elmers No Run Gel Carpenter's Glue.
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porkpal
Oct 1, 2014 12:52 PM CST
In my estimation, if Zuzu doesn't do it, it probably does not really need to be done.
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Name: Lyn
Weaverville, California (Zone 8a)
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RoseBlush1
Oct 1, 2014 2:18 PM CST
You don't need to seal pruning cuts unless you have evidence that you have boring insects in your garden.

Unfortunately, those that have to seal the pruning cuts to protect their roses have made it seem like this is a "must do" in all rose gardens.

Margie, if you have boring insects in your garden, Elmer's Glue is just fine.

Smiles,
Lyn
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Long Island, NY (Zone 6b)
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MargieNY
Oct 1, 2014 3:36 PM CST
As far as I know I don't have any borers. But, if they ever do show up, they better watch out! Because I will have my Elmer's ready and willing.
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Frillylily
Oct 1, 2014 3:40 PM CST
You could probably use a cheap candle and melt it in the microwave (old crayons?) and use that.
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zuzu
Oct 1, 2014 3:47 PM CST

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While you're shopping, be sure to let us know which roses catch your eye. I love shopping vicariously. Smiling
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Wichita, Kansas (Zone 7a)
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CindiKS
Oct 1, 2014 4:04 PM CST
zuzu said: I love shopping vicariously. Smiling


Oh, Zuzu, isn't that the truth~
My friends know that if I'm along on a shopping trip, I will cost them money.
*Blush* I get so enthusiastic about plants!
I've worked part time at several nurseries, just as a fun 2nd job for minimum wage (or for plants). If I had worked on commission, it would have been better pay than I made teaching.
Shrug!
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Name: Lyn
Weaverville, California (Zone 8a)
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RoseBlush1
Oct 1, 2014 5:05 PM CST
MargieNY said:As far as I know I don't have any borers. But, if they ever do show up, they better watch out! Because I will have my Elmer's ready and willing.


That works. Why fix a problem you don't have ?

Smiles,
Lyn

I'd rather weed than dust ... the weeds stay gone longer.
Long Island, NY (Zone 6b)
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MargieNY
Oct 1, 2014 7:19 PM CST
The word of the day is.....vicariously. Are you ladies ready to go shopping till you drop? Here's a list of the roses from Regan's I am "considering" as follows:
Distant Drums (replacement)
Anna's Promise
Betty Boop
Sheila's Perfume
Honey Perfume
Gemini
Traviata (replacement)
William Shakespeare 2000
Oranges & Lemons

And from K&D:
Crystalline
Over the Moon
Raphaela
Mohana
I would appreciate any feedback including any suggested substitutes.
Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Oct 1, 2014 8:41 PM CST

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I love your list! I personally think Betty Boop and Sheila's Perfume should be in everyone's garden. Hilarious!
Name: Cindi
Wichita, Kansas (Zone 7a)
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CindiKS
Oct 2, 2014 7:44 AM CST
I grow all those on your top list. William is the most finicky. Anna's Promise died on me this summer, but it could be she had a hard trip here in a suitcase. I'll buy another because the color blends so well with other perennials that I grow.
On the others, Over The Moon is the only one I've seen, and I don't grow it now, can't remember if I ever have.

Gemini grows best when you plant two of them. Whistling Hilarious!

I need a few more Gemini. It's a lovely rose that takes our heat better than most. Good list!
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