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Feb 11, 2010 6:51 PM CST
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Name: Bruce Dean
Jackson Ga
I did know at one time

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Feb 12, 2010 6:12 AM CST
Name: Steve Lucas
Siloam Springs, AR
Bruce, when trying to ID an aroid it can be very helpful if you post a good closeup photo of a single leaf, both top and bottom. Do your best to make sure the petiole that supports the leaf is clear in the photo of the bottom of the leaf since it can provide identification characteristics. A photo of the stem (central axis of the plant) as well as a the cataphyll that surrounds any new blade can give important clues. Of course, the biggie is the inflorescence if you're lucky enough to be able to capture one.

The leaves of an aroid can be extremely variable and don't always provide enough information to offer a good ID. This could be a form of Philodendron erubescens but more detail will help. Do you see "red" anywhere on the underside of the leaf or on the petiole?

Thanks!

Steve
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Feb 12, 2010 5:22 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Bruce Dean
Jackson Ga
Hi Steve I am not sure my camera is up to good clear closeups but I'll see what I can do.Right now it is snowing and I am way to wimpy to walk out to the greenhouse.The underside of the leaf and the petiole are both red and Philodendron Erubescens sound s familiar,Philo "Royal Queen" maybe?
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Feb 12, 2010 5:32 PM CST
Name: Dawn
Eastern KY Zone 6
Bruce, there is a seller on ebay that has Royal Queen if you want to compare. It can be hard to tell with different growing conditions, but I was wondering if it was a very pretty Royal Queen, too. I did a search for queen philodendron and it came up.
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Feb 12, 2010 5:54 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Bruce Dean
Jackson Ga
HI I have been looking back in my old records and I am pretty sure it is Royal Queen.
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Feb 12, 2010 10:17 PM CST
Name: Steve Lucas
Siloam Springs, AR
I've not heard that name but Philodendron erubescens has been used to hybridize a number of plants including Ace of Spades and a bunch of others.

Some of these plants are simply natural variations that don't look exactly alike. I've seen fully grown plants that only have a green petiole and others with a red petiole. I've also seen green and red petioles on the same plant! It is just natural variation. I know little about hybrids since I like to study species plants but LariAnn would likely know the answers to those questions.
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Feb 13, 2010 12:34 AM CST
Name: Debra joeswife
Derby,Kansas (Zone 6b)
I love it! It looks happy , too.
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Mar 12, 2010 6:28 PM CST
Name: LariAnn Garner
south Florida, USA
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Bruce,
Your plant looks like one of the legendary McColley Philodendron hybrids. In addition to the named/patented hybrids that came out of Mr. McColley's work, a great many unnamed or "mongrel' hybrids were also released to the trade. I know because I worked at Bamboo Jungle (McColley's nursery) and saw what they had, what they were doing, and what they were releasing. i also had the opportunity to look over all the seedling trays.

So without a provenance for your plant (provenance is the origin, or what would be analogous to a "chain of custody", showing the ultimate origin of the specimen), it is very difficult to determine if it is one of the named hybrids or one of the "mongrels". Not to worry, though, because the plant certainly doesn't mind and if you like your plant and enjoy it, that is the most important thing. You might try letting it go up a large totem or tree and see what happens.
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Mar 12, 2010 6:36 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Bruce Dean
Jackson Ga
Thanks I will do that with it .Right now I am worried that a lot of my aroids are not going to survive.My zone 7 greenhouse just went through a zone4 winter a lot of lost leaves and rotted stems
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Jun 25, 2010 12:25 PM CST
Name: Charleen
Alford, Florida (Zone 8a)
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Can't you cut them back and re-root them Bruce????
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