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Name: Carol Texas
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Ecscuba
Nov 9, 2014 1:39 AM CST
the more I read the more discouraging it gets to find safe containers. Plastic containers with recycle number 3, 6, or 7 are unsafe. I found a website with large food storage containers that say bpa free (see below) so maybe they are safe. Yikes. Challenging.

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Name: Greene
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greene
Nov 9, 2014 6:12 AM CST
Boxer grow bags are made from recycled water bottles. These are extremely affordable. I buy mine at the local hydroponic store but they are available online as well.
https://rootpouch.com/ and
http://rootpouch.com/products

"All of our fabrics are BPA free, and resistant to UV light."

Here is an example of one online supplier's pricing. Note that the bags 5 gallons and larger come with convenient handles.
$1.00 — One gallon, each
$20.00 — One gallon, pack of 25
$1.50 — Two gallon, each
$30.00 — Two gallon, pack of 25
$2.00 — Three gallon, each
$40.00 — Three gallon, pack of 25
$3.00 — Five gallon with handles, each
$25.00 — Five gallon with handles, pack of 10
$3.75 — Seven gallon with handles, each
$33.00 — Seven gallon with handles, pack of 10
$4.50 — Ten gallon with handles, each
$40.00 — Ten gallon with handles, pack of 10
$7.00 — Fifteen gallon with handles, each
$56.00 — Fifteen gallon with handles, pack of 10
$8.00 — Twenty gallon with handles, each
$64.00 — Twenty gallon with handles, pack of 10
$9.00 — Twenty-five gallon with handles, each
$70.00 — Twenty-five gallon with handles, pack of 10
$10.00 — Thirty gallon with handles, each
$83.00 — Thirty gallon with handles, pack of 10
$12.00 — Thirty-five gallon with handles, each
$95.00 — Thirty-five gallon with handles, pack of 10
$14.00 — Forty-five gallon with handles, each
$110.00 — Forty-five gallon with handles, pack of 10

If shopping online, please check for the best pricing as some folks (such as 'Heiroom Organics') think 'organic' growers want to pay double the normal price.
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Name: Carol Texas
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Ecscuba
Nov 9, 2014 10:57 PM CST
GREENE thx for the info. I appreciate it. I also discovered Home Depot carries buckets in Medium and large size that are a recycle 2 which is supposed to be safe and they are fairly inexpensive. I will also check out the grow bags you listed. thanks again.
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Name: Greene
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greene
Nov 10, 2014 10:17 AM CST
@Escuba,
If you like, I can mail you one of the brown Boxer bags so you can check it out. They weigh next to nothing and can easily be sent in an envelope.
Send me a Tree-mail with as address if this sounds good to you.
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Name: Carol Texas
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Ecscuba
Nov 10, 2014 3:34 PM CST
GREENE Thank you for the offer. I am going to go ahead and order some and try them out -- they look like a great solution. Appreciate your kind offer -- and the information.

Cheers :)
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Name: Carol Texas
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Ecscuba
Nov 10, 2014 3:37 PM CST
GREENE how have you used these? Alone or as a liner in a pot ? I supposed you could do either -- just wondering, do they dry out quicker than plastic pots?

I am seeing them on Amazon - so will compare the prices.
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flaflwrgrl
Nov 10, 2014 7:25 PM CST
I'm all ears!
Also Greene, I'm interested in knowing about drainage with those bags.
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Name: Kyla
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kylaluaz
Nov 10, 2014 7:32 PM CST
Wow. This is a new twist for me. Do the plastic containers with bpa in the plastic leach that much into the plant roots that the plant actually takes up a measurable amount? I'd love to see an article or something describing this -- and please don't misunderstand, if I sound incredulous or like I am scoffing, I am totally not, just, this is something I'd neither heard of nor considered as an issue with organic growing!

So please educate me.
Name: Carol Texas
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Ecscuba
Nov 13, 2014 11:14 PM CST
KYLALUAZ I don't have a proven answer but I do see discussion on the web. It makes sense to me that if the containers are in the sun and have water that chemical leaching would occur. I read on the web that a good container would be food safe recycle 2. Those usually have a fork and knife on them. Not all recycle 2 are "food safe". They said you might be able to get them from a restaurant. I saw them on Amazon. Large buckets.
I came to the conclusion that the "safest" planter is just plant in the earth...I'm sure there is something not right about that too. Haha. Seriously I just want to avoid chemicals where I can. I read that terra cotta is very safe. It does dry out quicker but that seems like a nice alternative and they really last a long time. So, decisions decisions.
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Name: Kyla
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kylaluaz
Nov 14, 2014 12:26 AM CST
@Ecscuba, thanks for answering. I agree, the safest place for planting is in the earth -- as long as you're in a clean spot! Smiling Healthy, living soil is a magical substance, in my opinion.

Terra cotta is great, it's just mighty heavy and so moving it around is harder. I have planted in all kinds of found and scrounged containers, and some of my favorites have been large baskets I've gotten at thrift stores. Every kind of container has its drawbacks as well as its benefits. I'd still be very interested in any link to information about plant roots taking up toxins from plastic, if you run across such.
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Name: Kyla
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kylaluaz
Nov 14, 2014 6:47 AM CST
ETA: I also wonder if older plastic containers are less an issue for this; I suspect that used ones that have been around for a while have probably leached out all they're going to release of that stuff, so they'd be safe enough, compared to brand new ones.
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dyzzypyxxy
Nov 14, 2014 6:37 PM CST
Just thinking, there's no guarantee that terracotta is safe either. You don't know where the clay came from, and even though it is baked (which would kill bacteria and other pathogens) soil-borne toxins could still leach out of the clay.

I got some terracotta pots from Lowe's a couple of years ago, and broke one before I was able to plant it. Discovered that there was a layer of the red clay on the outside surfaces of the pot, but inside that there was plain grey clay.
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