Adeniums forum: What's Up With The Drooping?

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Name: Cheryl
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ShadyGreenThumb
Nov 11, 2014 9:22 PM CST
I only have one DR that is suddenly drooping. The branches but nortthe caudex feel soft. What's happening??? Confused
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kareoke
Nov 12, 2014 7:04 AM CST
Make sure you do not over water, they do not need as much as other plants,
Name: Melissa E. Keyes
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coconut
Nov 12, 2014 10:51 AM CST
OUT OF THE POT, IMMEDIATELY!!! See what's happening under the mix! Go from there---
Name: tarev
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tarev
Nov 12, 2014 11:47 AM CST
I agree You can also just set it aside in a very dry and warm spot. At this time it should be getting ready to sleep..no more watering.
Or if that branch continues to soften, I would just cut it off, so whatever it is will not spread to the rest of the plant.
Name: Melissa E. Keyes
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coconut
Nov 12, 2014 1:06 PM CST
Might be a caudex/root problem, I still say, look. If the caudex is brown and a little soft, it'll heal being in the air. But if it's like that, and stays in dampness, it could easily rot. My experience.
Name: Cheryl
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ShadyGreenThumb
Nov 12, 2014 2:17 PM CST
I uprooted it. First look it looked ok
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Further inspection found this. ...the root fell right off.


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I trimmed this as it was mushy
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This us soft so i left it alone.
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The soil was barely moist but we had lots of rain in early fall. It's out of the pot in the greenhouse.Gonna get to freezing in a few nights . What should i do next?
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tarev
Nov 12, 2014 2:44 PM CST
Dab a little cinnamon on that fresh cut area. Bring it indoors, find your warmest spot and let it continue to air dry. It may still scab over to heal.
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kareoke
Nov 13, 2014 6:47 AM CST
I would cut the soft spot out.
Name: Melissa E. Keyes
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coconut
Nov 13, 2014 9:10 AM CST
Cut some long strips of cloth, I prefer cotton, as old bed sheets, and thread the strips through the roots and hang the plant in the warmest place you can find. Let it just stay there for weeks! It's had enough water for a while.

The root fell off? Then it's healing! That's good. I wouldn't cut any more right now. If you want, try a little slice in the soft spot, just 1/4 of an inch, to see what's inside. If it's mushy, and slimy/stinky, then go ahead and operate. You needn't chop all the way to firm white flesh, just get close and then rub with paper towels to dry off as much as you can. Then maybe even set a hair dryer on low, and put it far enough away that the plant is warmed, but not heated to being hot. For an hour or so. I've done this, and had success.

Once a plant is over watered, and rain is water (!) the tiny feeder roots die, then the small roots die and start rotting, and the plant isn't using the water that's in the pot, and that is rotting around what's left of the struggling plant's caudex and roots. I'm glad you did take it out of the pot. Fresh potting mix will be really good for the plant, once you repot. Don't pack the medium into the pot when you do. It should be just barely moist, and holding the plant, shake the mix around the roots. Then don't water for at least a week, so the plant can start new feeder roots. Whew, lotta typing!
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Name: Cheryl
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ShadyGreenThumb
Nov 13, 2014 11:46 AM CST
Thank you Melissa and Tarev. I appreciate the hints and I will do my best to keep this one alive. I have had DRs for 3-4 years and never had this problem before.
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tarev
Nov 13, 2014 12:53 PM CST
Usually it is the timing when they get wet or damp. In summer it does not mind getting rained on, but when it starts to get cold even if it did not rain, somehow it will feel damp so that lurking potential of rot creeps in.
Name: Melissa E. Keyes
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coconut
Nov 14, 2014 11:59 AM CST
You're right, Tarev. I have weather here that's warm enough, but a lot of rain over two or three days, and then no sun for a few days, and there they go! I'm designing in my head benches that have a slight slant, and something to wick water out of the pots once the rain stops. Movement!
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tarev
Nov 14, 2014 12:05 PM CST
That would be a nice design!

Name: Melissa E. Keyes
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coconut
Nov 14, 2014 12:36 PM CST
Yes, I just moved all my plants and they're sitting on a flat surface. Many have rotted leaves because they sat on that level surface, and the water just didn't drain well enough. No loss of life, they'll recover, but, hey! They look awful right now! No pruning, they will heal themselves, and then I will gently tug the dead leaves and stems off. I'll post photos in a week or so. Only sunny in the early morning, booo! Shade from the house.
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Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
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tarev
Nov 14, 2014 1:00 PM CST
Wow! A happy looking lot you got there! Yeah.. same story of my garden..I only get a few hours of good light here which is good and bad during summer, when I want the Adeniums to bask in the sun, and when we do get it expect the triple digit dry temps..which is luckily okay with the Adeniums as long as I give them good watering in summer.
Name: Melissa E. Keyes
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coconut
Nov 17, 2014 10:39 AM CST
Tarev, that isn't where they live! I am in the middle of moving myself from a 3 bedroom house to a tiny efficiency apartment, with two nice decks. These plants will not stay in all that shade for long! Moving is such a drag!

This is the other deck late in the afternoon, before beginning to fill with plants. It gets full sun from, literally, sunrise to about three in the afternoon.
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Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
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tarev
Nov 17, 2014 11:05 AM CST
That is good then for your plants.
Name: Doris Klene
Greensburg,Indiana.
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kareoke
Nov 18, 2014 7:01 AM CST
Bet it will take longer to move all your plants than to move your furniture. Have fun, if I were closer I would help you nodding
Name: Melissa E. Keyes
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coconut
Nov 18, 2014 12:16 PM CST
Doris, MUCH longer to move the plants. I'm going to sell the furniture, no place to put it!
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Name: Doris Klene
Greensburg,Indiana.
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kareoke
Nov 19, 2014 6:43 AM CST
You never have time to sit down anyway, Big Grin

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