Houseplants forum: Jade Plant Extreme Temp Change

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mmgsport
Nov 19, 2014 6:51 AM CST
I just wanted to thank everyone for the their help over the past few months. All of the advice I have received has been so great. We survived the summer and all the issues and things are/were looking great.

So I left my plant outside a little too long and the temps really dropped (like 30 degrees) and the plant really continued to look great. Last night it was really nasty out and the coldest its been so I decided to bring it in the house and the heat inside was PUMPING!! Now 80% of the leaves have really started to droop. It feels all gummy and limp. I brough it in last night around 9:00 and at 8:00 this morning (almost 12 hrs later!) they are still drooping.

Thoughts?
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drdawg
Nov 19, 2014 7:22 AM CST
It got too cold. There is nothing you can do now but keep in bright light (no direct sun) and keep is in temperate conditions. Don't water it until you see that it has bounced back and the soil is dry.
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tarev
Nov 19, 2014 2:03 PM CST
Your plant is reacting to drastic temperature change. I leave my jade plants outdoors all season long, it has endured even 21F with some cold damage on its leaves or lose some leaves, but it quickly bounces back once it gets warmed up. It can take the cold provided kept dry or allowed to dry if it happens to rain. It is more cold hardy than most succulents, but must be kept dry if possible.

Since your plant is already indoors, just allow to acclimate once more, and as Ken mentioned, keep it dry for now.
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drdawg
Nov 19, 2014 2:54 PM CST
Tarev, I have lost dozens of jade and aloe vera, and a handful of schefflera and rubber trees already this year. All it took was the three nights in the lower 20's/upper teens. They will not come back. Crying
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tarev
Nov 19, 2014 3:20 PM CST
Your cold weather conditions are different than my area. That is sad though that you lost them. My scheffleras, and jades, they are out all year long, and they endure here. Maybe because we do have a quick warm up the following day then goes back down to the lower temps during winter. I guess these plants endure here since it is only during winter season that we get good levels of humidity and some rain, after that they get 6 months of dry air and dismal to no rain.

But I always find jades to be very tough. I have almost killed a Crassula ovata 'Gollum' but it did come back slowly the following year. It was really pitiful to look at then, but it surprisingly came back and came back much bigger too, once I have moved it closer to the house. It is now a big monster plant, too top heavy as well. As long as I see green, I see hope in them, as long as the stems still fell a bit stiff, it can still dry out, scab over and heal.

Feb 9, 2012
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End of Feb 2012
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Same plant Nov 2014
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Crassula ovata is less finicky for me..it will just turn brick red when it is feeling very cold, it has even gotten bad hail marks at one time on its leaves, but it stays on, and grows so well.

Feb 2012, same period my Gollum was fighting for its life, this jade was just brick red, I guess our house helped shielding it from the a lot of the windchill too:
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drdawg
Nov 19, 2014 4:16 PM CST
Yep, very different conditions though similar low temps. I left out well over 100 tropical plants last winter and lost every single one. If my loses are less than 50 this winter (there's nothing else left to kill), I will consider myself lucky.............if you can call losing plants "lucky". Sighing! I just hope all my garlic will survive. That's my "cash" crop and helps pay for my orchid addiction. Whistling
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mmgsport
Nov 19, 2014 4:54 PM CST
I had hoped it would have bounced back by now but it hasn't. I guess I assumed it would be like a patience plant or something similar that droops heavily when too dry and then bounces back after 15min!!

Could I lose the plant? Just keep it inside and dry now?
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tarev
Nov 19, 2014 5:13 PM CST
If it has some internal damage already, it will take time to heal. Just keep it indoors now, since you have introduced the warm temperature already.

Btw, I do not know where you are located so I am just sharing how it goes in my area where we do not get snow, just that occasional dip in the 20's in winter with some rain.
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drdawg
Nov 19, 2014 5:15 PM CST
That's all you can do. If/when the plant begins to rot and all the leaves have dropped off, you will know it is the end.

Good luck.
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tarev
Nov 19, 2014 5:33 PM CST
If some leaves have dropped, you can try to just lay those leaves on top of a dry soil..who knows, it may or may not try to make new roots.
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tarev
Nov 19, 2014 5:47 PM CST
This jade leaf fell from one of my plants during winter 2013, I just found it laying on the soil beside the plant in early April 2013. It has made new leaves and roots, so you can certainly try to salvage the leaves.
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drdawg
Nov 19, 2014 5:56 PM CST
It just depends on the extent of freezing. Certainly healthy leaves can and will root readily.
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tarev
Nov 19, 2014 6:06 PM CST
True, depending on the temperature and season of rooting too. It is faster when it is warm or heading to warm season..it will bid its time when it is feeling cold.
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drdawg
Nov 19, 2014 6:09 PM CST
I agree
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mmgsport
Nov 19, 2014 8:01 PM CST

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So this is what it looks like now. It does feel like root rot in reference to how gummy the plant is but none of the leaves have fallen off so I just really pray that it adjust properly to the temperature
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tarev
Nov 19, 2014 8:20 PM CST
I think it has a good chance of recovery, just keep it dry. How long have you had this jade?
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drdawg
Nov 19, 2014 8:32 PM CST
I do see some life there. Pictures tell a much better story than words. I feel a little bit better that some if not most of the plant will survive. Just keep it dry and the conditions temperate.
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Cinta
Nov 19, 2014 9:50 PM CST
Looks like jades I have left outside when we have had an early frost. I just put it in front of the window and did not water it for 2 months. I just got a squirt bottle and gave it a couple of squirts every now and then.

It looks like it will be fine.
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tarev
Nov 19, 2014 11:19 PM CST
Oh you should see my finicky Crassula ovata 'Gollum' right now..half went bending..I just checked the roots and the soil area..seems okay..just need to prop it up..whatever it is , it just wants to swoon. I continued to keep it outdoors, just positioned with more light and have added some lava rocks too.

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Moved to a sunnier spot, and left it there..it is raining now here up to tomorrow..so good luck on this plant. But I know it is their active growing time so it may just be too top heavy, so added some stakes. Hopefully it will perk right back up soon.
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