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Name: Reid
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Nov 24, 2014 9:28 PM CST

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dave
Nov 25, 2014 11:00 AM CST

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Looks more like a big fat Pink Banana squash.
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plantladylin
Nov 25, 2014 11:14 AM CST
I agree, it looks like Banana Squash:

https://www.google.com/search?q=Cucurbita+Banana&biw=1363&bi...

http://garden.org/plants/search/text/?q=Cucurbita+maxima+Ban...

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JRsbugs
Nov 25, 2014 11:45 AM CST
Interesting thing is, the stem end has leaves clasping over the fruit. Squash normally attach by a thick stem.

What size is it?

Can you give some history, e.g. did you grow it from seed, where did you get it from, what type of plant did it come from?
Name: Reid
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Anderwood
Nov 25, 2014 7:34 PM CST
Well, it was in my hugel bed. I planted Long Island cheese, Atlantic giant, delicata, peanut pumpkin, butternut rogosa, winter luxury pumpkin, and luffa. Obviously it is none of those.

I also threw pumpkins last fall back there I bought from a big field of mixed pumpkins and gourds.

It is about 15 pounds. It is about 16" from tip to tip. It started out yellow and turned this color.
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JRsbugs
Nov 26, 2014 5:00 AM CST
Orange Hubbard? It does seem odd to have such a narrow stem with clasping leaves!

http://www.ebfarm.com/learn/resources/pumpkin-squash-id-char...

Is the right side the stem, or the flower end? I found a photo which suggests it's the flower end, and what looked like dried flower matter on the left side is the stem?

http://www.dreamstime.com/stock-photo-hubbard-squash-single-...
Name: Greene
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greene
Nov 26, 2014 8:26 AM CST
Confused Where are you all seeing clasping leaves? All I see is a green pattern on the skin of the squash near the stem end.
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JRsbugs
Nov 26, 2014 8:28 AM CST
The green pattern is most likely what looks like clasping leaves, which until I found the photo of an Orange Hubbard really did look like leaves. Now I know what it's likely to be, hence my questioning above.
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dave
Nov 26, 2014 8:10 PM CST

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The pink banana also exhibits the blue/green coloration on the stem end, which was my main clue in my guess above.
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Weedwhacker
Nov 26, 2014 8:51 PM CST
Is orange hubbard the same as Golden Hubbard ? I grow the golden, which is really bright orange and I have no idea why it's called "golden", and it doesn't have that green pattern, and also typically doesn't weigh that much (I think 12 lbs is kind of the upper limit).
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JRsbugs
Nov 27, 2014 5:50 AM CST
It seems the Orange Hubbard is really the Golden Hubbard, perhaps the naming has changed with some sellers due to copyrights?

The Golden Hubbard, which is really an orange-red, was developed by J. J. Harrison of Storr’s & Harrison Company, Painsville, Ohio. It was introduced by D. M. Ferry & Company of Detroit in 1898. The Golden Hubbard should produce a dark green or olive-green patch on the blossom end, an indication that the seed is growing true to type.


http://www.motherearthnews.com/organic-gardening/heirloom-pu...

I think the shape fits the Hubbard type best Dave.

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dave
Nov 27, 2014 7:10 AM CST

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Janet, the quote you gave says the patch of color is on the blossom end but Reid's squash here has the color on the stem end.
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JRsbugs
Nov 27, 2014 7:53 AM CST
That was one of my questions Dave, was I getting the wrong end? At first the right side looked to be the stem end, the left the blossom end. I'm not sure now, mature stems are usually thick and rough so I wondered if what appears to be a stem on the right side is just an odd protrusion. It would seem strange also for a dried blossom which looks quite large to still be attached at this ripe stage.

If Reid could confirm which is the stem end I think we could conclude which it is.
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dave
Nov 27, 2014 8:03 AM CST

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Good questions Janet. Reid?
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JRsbugs
Nov 27, 2014 8:08 AM CST
There's no mention of Banana Squash having a green end in it's description.

http://www.motherearthnews.com/organic-gardening/heirloom-pu...

Nor can I find any which have a green end other than a very occasional one with a hint of green at the blossom end. If the right side was the stem end, and if it was a Banana Squash then I would expect to find some photos with green at the stem end, I can't find any.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Pink+Banana+squash&source=...

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JRsbugs
Nov 27, 2014 8:13 AM CST
A Hubbard crossed with a Banana Squash?! Hilarious!

http://forums.seedsavers.org/forum/gardening/seed-saving/483...
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dave
Nov 27, 2014 8:25 AM CST

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JRsbugs said:A Hubbard crossed with a Banana Squash?! Hilarious!


I was thinking it but didn't want to suggest it! I'm glad you did. Hilarious!
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Horntoad
Nov 27, 2014 8:52 AM CST
It looks to me like the stem is on the left opposite of the green patch.
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Nov 27, 2014 8:57 AM CST
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Weedwhacker
Nov 27, 2014 6:06 PM CST
Hmmm -- now I'm wondering if I actually have Golden Hubbard (seeds came from a friend a few years back); I didn't grow it this year, but I'm pretty sure there was no green patch on either end!

Correction -- I found this photo from 2009 and it does indeed have a green patch on the blossom end!



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