Plant ID forum: Aloe plicatilis????

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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Nov 30, 2014 4:30 PM CST
Is this a young Aloe plicatilis?
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Name: Donald
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needrain
Nov 30, 2014 4:54 PM CST
Maybe a Gasteria? Close relative of the Aloes. The bloom reminds me of a Haworthia that bloomed here, but isn't quite right. Google shows some Gasteria blooms that look similar to this. Just guessing.
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plantladylin
Nov 30, 2014 5:03 PM CST
I agree, it reminds me of Gasteria or possibly Gasterole (x Gasterole): https://www.google.com/search?q=Gasteraloe+Green+Ice&biw=136...


X Gasteraloe (XGasteraloe 'Green Ice')
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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Nov 30, 2014 8:22 PM CST
The bloom stalk did not develop correctly, because of the plant being in a very low light situation.
I think we are on the right track with Gasteria.
The growth pattern and description of this gasteria. The photo doesn't show the dark green leaf edge trim.
http://www.karacactus.com/succulentImagepage_S_0128.htm
Name: Donald
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needrain
Nov 30, 2014 9:38 PM CST
A pretty nice closeup of gasteria blooms for a comparison can be seen here:

http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/azgard/msg0309062331...
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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Nov 30, 2014 10:05 PM CST
Thank you for the link Donald. Those blooms look very close to mine. Some of the blooms show the gastric swelling.
Name: tarev
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tarev
Nov 30, 2014 10:22 PM CST
It does look like a Gasteria bloom....similar looking blooms with my Gasteria armstrongii and Aloe gasteria hybrid.

Maybe it is the one called Gasteria 'Frosty' or Gasteria glomerata...see this page from Arid Lands: http://www.aridlands.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_i...
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valleylynn
Nov 30, 2014 10:29 PM CST
Thank you for the link tarev. Love that site, I've bookmarked it.
So far it seems more of a match with 'Frosty'. Now I need to learn how to care for it.
Name: Kate
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karmatree
Dec 7, 2014 7:20 AM CST
It looks like a gasteraloe...cross between aloe and gasteria...I have one that looks like that, but I haven't seen it bloom yet so I'm not sure!
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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Dec 7, 2014 9:23 AM CST
Thank you Kate.
Since I posted this thread the leaves have taken on a little more color. I think it will be at least a year before I can be sure of what it is. In the spring I will take another photo of it.
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JRsbugs
Dec 7, 2014 11:56 AM CST
It 'appears' to have Gasteria obtusifolia in it (bright green, with a blueish haze on the leaves, some texture, toothy edges), maybe a cultivar of it?

http://www.jjcactus-succulents.net/liliaceae_gasteria.htm



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JRsbugs
Dec 7, 2014 12:37 PM CST
Gasteria Silver Ice looks possible but this is the only pic I can find .. I can't see if it has 'toothy edges'.

http://www.mutiaraplant.com/gasteria/458-gasteria-silver-ice...

There's a long list of Gasteria with photos on this site but none look to match it ..

http://www.cactus-mall.com/naturescuriosityshop/list.html
Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Dec 7, 2014 3:44 PM CST
Great links Janet.
As you can see, the one I have does have the toothy edges, it also has a dark green leaf edge which really sets off the icy green base color of the leaves.

After investingating I can definitely say that it is not Gasteraloe 'Green Ice'. http://www.succulents.us/gasthawo.html
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G. 'Silver Ice' sure looks like a match in leaf shape and color. There are so many hybrids out there, I may never know the name of this one.
I agree that it looks to be related to Gasteria obtusifolia.

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