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For 2015, Let's Celebrate Gardening at All Things Plants

By dave
January 3, 2015

We've said it so often that it has become our informal slogan: ATP is all about having fun. What better way to have fun than to dedicate an entire year to celebrating gardening and every aspect of it.

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Name: Ken Ramsey
Starkville, MS (Zone 8a)
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drdawg
Jan 3, 2015 9:12 AM CST
I did an unscientific comparison of posts to the threads I follow. I have approximately the same number of forums that I follow on ATP and DG. After a seven day period I compared the number of posts either I made or someone else made that were related to my posts. That number on ATP was 42 and on DG the number was 13. I have noticed this same tendency for the entire 2014, and the discrepancy between ATP and DG seems to be growing wider all the time.

ATP rocks! Hurray!
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Name: Sandy B.
Ford River, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
Charter ATP Member Celebrating Gardening: 2015 I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped beta test the first seed swap Region: United States of America Region: Michigan
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Weedwhacker
Jan 3, 2015 9:19 AM CST
drdawg said:ATP rocks! Hurray!


I agree

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Name: Becky
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Daylilies Hummingbirder Butterflies Seed Starter Container Gardener
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Birds Ponds
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beckygardener
Jan 3, 2015 11:12 AM CST
Ken - I can conclude what you are saying. I rarely use DG, but once in a blue moon I have a plant question and want to post it on more than one forum hoping someone with experience from FL will reply, therefore I will post the question there as well as here. It often takes longer to get a reply on DG and then the replies are very limited. Usually 1 (maybe 2) reply posts. ATP seems much more active to me than other "plant" websites. I like ATP because it is always improving (thanks to Dave)! And it IS FUN and educational!!! Hurray! Thumbs up
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Name: Ken Ramsey
Starkville, MS (Zone 8a)
[url=www.tropicalplantsandmore.com]
Orchids Greenhouse Vegetable Grower Ferns Region: United States of America Hummingbirder
Composter Bromeliad Master Gardener: Mississippi Cat Lover Tropicals Plumerias
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drdawg
Jan 3, 2015 11:21 AM CST
Becky, I do the same thing and with the same results. WE BOTH CAN'T BE WRONG! Whistling
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Name: Carol
Santa Ana,Ca. (Zone 10b)
Sunset zone 22
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ctcarol
Jan 3, 2015 1:17 PM CST
I agree with both of you!
Name: Jennifer
48036 MI (Zone 6b)
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jvdubb
Jan 3, 2015 3:52 PM CST
I never felt welcome at that other site. Self appointed experts were condecending and rude.
Name: Ken Ramsey
Starkville, MS (Zone 8a)
[url=www.tropicalplantsandmore.com]
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drdawg
Jan 3, 2015 3:54 PM CST
ATP does seem to be a happier and more friendly site. I can't explain why.
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Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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zuzu
Jan 3, 2015 8:41 PM CST

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There's a general lack of community spirit there. When I first joined DG many years ago, there were threads and forums that included and invited comments and discussion by members from all over the site. These discussions gradually moved to individual forums, which became cliquish and uninviting. I only saw one DG post congratulating the winners of this year's photo contest, for instance, and I'm not sure anyone responded to it. Compare that to the discussions here following our photo contest.
Name: Jay
Nederland, Texas (Zone 9a)
Region: Texas Region: Gulf Coast Charter ATP Member I helped beta test the first seed swap I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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Horntoad
Jan 3, 2015 8:57 PM CST
Unless you are a paid member there, you have very limited access. Their payed membership has been dropping drastically since Dave left. In July of 2009 they had 7861 payed subscribers and two weeks ago they were down to only 2798. At their current rate of loss, they will have no paying members in less 3 years.
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Name: Becky
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Daylilies Hummingbirder Butterflies Seed Starter Container Gardener
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Birds Ponds
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beckygardener
Jan 3, 2015 9:06 PM CST
That's interesting information. I hardly ever use DG, so I had no idea that the membership dropped so much. I think quite a few previous DG members followed Dave here or have been migrating here over the years since ATP was created.
What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters, compared to what lies within us.
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Name: Ken Ramsey
Starkville, MS (Zone 8a)
[url=www.tropicalplantsandmore.com]
Orchids Greenhouse Vegetable Grower Ferns Region: United States of America Hummingbirder
Composter Bromeliad Master Gardener: Mississippi Cat Lover Tropicals Plumerias
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drdawg
Jan 3, 2015 9:22 PM CST
Jay, this has nothing to do with ATP, and needless to say, I have commented quite a bit on its advantages. I lived in Nederland in 1952-1956. Small world. I was born in Beaumont (my dad worked in the ship-yard and then enlisted in the Navy in WW II.
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Name: Jay
Nederland, Texas (Zone 9a)
Region: Texas Region: Gulf Coast Charter ATP Member I helped beta test the first seed swap I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier Tip Photographer Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Master Level Hibiscus
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Horntoad
Jan 3, 2015 9:50 PM CST
drdawg said:Jay, this has nothing to do with ATP, and needless to say, I have commented quite a bit on its advantages


I'm afraid I missed your point here. I was not talking about ATP. You and zuzu both mentioned DG and I making a correlation about you comments and hers.


drdawg said: I have noticed this same tendency for the entire 2014, and the discrepancy between ATP and DG seems to be growing wider all the time.

DG membership is dropping while ATP is growing, which might explain why there is such a difference in the two and why the gap is growing.

zuzu said:There's a general lack of community spirit there.

The lack of community spirit is likely a big reason their membership is dropping

zuzu said:I only saw one DG post congratulating the winners of this year's photo contest, for instance, and I'm not sure anyone responded to it. Compare that to the discussions here following our photo contest.

Both community spirit and declining membership probably contributed to this. While ATP has both a large membership and great community spirit.

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Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
Forum moderator Plant Database Moderator Charter ATP Member Region: California Cat Lover Roses
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zuzu
Jan 3, 2015 10:59 PM CST

Plants Admin

You've misunderstood drdawg's post, Jay. He was merely warning you that he was going off topic (ATP vs. DG) to tell you that he once lived in Nederland.
Name: Jay
Nederland, Texas (Zone 9a)
Region: Texas Region: Gulf Coast Charter ATP Member I helped beta test the first seed swap I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier Tip Photographer Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Master Level Hibiscus
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Horntoad
Jan 4, 2015 6:20 AM CST
I realize that I misunderstood, that's why I said "I'm afraid I missed your point here." I thought he was telling me I was of topic, but now that you pointed out my mistake it's seems pretty obvious what he meant. Thanks for the clarification.
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Name: Jay
Nederland, Texas (Zone 9a)
Region: Texas Region: Gulf Coast Charter ATP Member I helped beta test the first seed swap I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier Tip Photographer Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Master Level Hibiscus
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Horntoad
Jan 4, 2015 6:26 AM CST
drdawg said:I lived in Nederland in 1952-1956. Small world. I was born in Beaumont (my dad worked in the ship-yard and then enlisted in the Navy in WW II.

You were gone a couple of year before I arrived. I technically I was born in Beaumont, since that was where the hospital was, but we lived in Beauxart Gardens.
Both my parents were from Beaumont, and my grandfather worked at the shipyard.

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Name: Ken Ramsey
Starkville, MS (Zone 8a)
[url=www.tropicalplantsandmore.com]
Orchids Greenhouse Vegetable Grower Ferns Region: United States of America Hummingbirder
Composter Bromeliad Master Gardener: Mississippi Cat Lover Tropicals Plumerias
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drdawg
Jan 4, 2015 7:44 AM CST
Your grandfather and my father may have worked together, Jay. How about that!

The hospital was probably Hotel Dieu. That's where I was born in 1943. I don't know whether there are any Hotel Dieu hospitals left in America. Hotel Dieu de Paris has a great and interesting history, being the first hospital established in Paris, France. That hospital, though established in 651, still exists and is the oldest hospital in the world.
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Name: Bev
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
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webesemps
Jan 4, 2015 12:00 PM CST
Thanks Zuzu for clarification...I misunderstood too.
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
Charter ATP Member Celebrating Gardening: 2015 I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped beta test the first seed swap Region: United States of America Region: Michigan
Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Birds Butterflies Dog Lover Cat Lover
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Weedwhacker
Jan 4, 2015 3:45 PM CST
drdawg said:ATP does seem to be a happier and more friendly site. I can't explain why.


I totally agree -- as Zuzu noted, many of the forums seemed to become quite "cliquish," IMO. Seems odd to me, since Dave created both sites, but maybe it was just some sort of natural progression Shrug! Or maybe ATP just feels different to me because I've been here essentially since the very beginning. I hope new members find it a fun and friendly place as well!

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Name: Ken Ramsey
Starkville, MS (Zone 8a)
[url=www.tropicalplantsandmore.com]
Orchids Greenhouse Vegetable Grower Ferns Region: United States of America Hummingbirder
Composter Bromeliad Master Gardener: Mississippi Cat Lover Tropicals Plumerias
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drdawg
Jan 4, 2015 4:00 PM CST
I can assure you, at least from my perspective, the two sites are nothing alike. I have met some really nice, knowledgeable folks on DG, but the "feel" is just somehow different. To really get anything from the DG site, be ready to fork up money. To advertise anything at all on DG, be ready to fork up some money. Forget listing my website anywhere, anytime on DG. Make that misstep, the God's of DG will quickly be down your throat. I know, I have made some mistakes there. Sticking tongue out
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If God wanted me to touch my toes, he would have put them on my knees.
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
Charter ATP Member Celebrating Gardening: 2015 I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped beta test the first seed swap Region: United States of America Region: Michigan
Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Birds Butterflies Dog Lover Cat Lover
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Weedwhacker
Jan 4, 2015 4:02 PM CST
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