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Jan 8, 2015 2:33 AM CST
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Name: david sevitt
jerusalem israel
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i am sending the first set of pictures of plants that are in a standby position.....in a not heated room most of the time....snow outside....the aglaonema i wanted to turn it into a hydroponic but the cold is holding me back so i will wait for the spring to do the root adaption.the plumeria as i wrote before is resting.(its 5th year same story indoors outdoors.)the small cutting is red but i am a little bit anxiuos about its success.as you can see it is so pittyful.i had thoughts of boosting it with rooting hormon home made.(or from soaked wheat or from willow bark.the one on the window sill was in another room it had less light but was warmer.it is some kind of the bromeliad family.
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Jan 8, 2015 1:33 PM CST
Name: tarev
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Depending on the cultivar of your plumeria, most plumerias are just dormant when it is cold season. As long as the stem is firm, it should be okay. So no watering or fertilizer is given while it is dormant, just let it be.

When your temps are more consistently warm and higher, you can slowly acclimate it outdoors and it will be happier being out in full sun and regular watering and fertilizing can resume.
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Jan 8, 2015 2:06 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: david sevitt
jerusalem israel
thank you for your advice
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Jan 8, 2015 2:31 PM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
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David, is your Plumeria cutting rooted or not?
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Jan 8, 2015 10:37 PM CST
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Name: david sevitt
jerusalem israel
not rooted i should have picked it in spring
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Jan 8, 2015 10:51 PM CST
Name: Elaine
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David, I'm looking at your first picture on this thread and thinking "why aren't there any plants on that top shelf??"

It's got to stay at lot warmer up there during the day, and warm air holds more moisture, too. Might be worth a try to place some of your struggling plants up there for a week or so to see if they rally. Put the books down on the floor by the window!

I agree with Tarev, the plumeria are dormant now, just keep them cool and water very little if any until the weather warms up. The cutting may still survive, if the stem still feels firm. If it's soft and squishy, pitch it.
Elaine

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Jan 8, 2015 11:27 PM CST
Name: tarev
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If Plumeria is not rooted, wait in Spring or whenever your temps are reasonably warm, till new leaves actually form first before you water. Keep it in warm semi-shade by then as you wait for the leaves to form. Just be patient at that stage of waiting..it may take awhile.
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Jan 9, 2015 4:47 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: david sevitt
jerusalem israel
thank you for your advice tarev and elaine.
i have patience but i would like to avoid mistakes.
i tok a walk out in the neihgborhood this morning quite shook how many plants are surviving after our first snow this year.
does any body know what is happening inside the plumeria cutting now.will it mind or be happy if i take it out of the soil and wrap it up with a nice warm cloth and put it on a shelf....horizontally or vertically?
are red plumerias more sensitive? there are very few in israel.i remember seing one in jericho many years ago...when going there was legal.i know the climate there and the soil are very special.....we oranges here in jerusalem called "jericho oranges"...they re
ally taste different.
tarev what is pitch it?
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Jan 9, 2015 6:27 AM CST
Name: Tara
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If the stem feels soft and squishy, pitch it....Meaning throw it away.
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Jan 9, 2015 6:43 AM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
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I don't really think Tarev meant to say "pitch it", which means "throw it away". IF you have soft, mushy stem tissue develop on the CUT END, just cut that stem back above the soft area. The tissue should be white and ooze "sap". If you still see brown/black tissue, just cut back some more until you come to firm, white tissue. If the other end, that end with the small, just-forming leaves, rots - well, the plant is toast. It is time for the garbage-toss! Sticking tongue out

DON'T water your unrooted plumeria at all. Just keep it/them warm (50 F or above is fine). You can keep it/them on a shelf, on the floor, wherever. It doesn't matter whether there is a lot of light or little light. Plumeria are not growing during their dormant time anyway. If you have medium ready to root that/those plumeria (such as a pail of coarse perlite) you can go ahead and stick your plumeria 3-4" deep in that. It is not rooting time yet, but it won't hurt to store it/them that way. I have dozens of cuttings stored just like that, a dozen per coarse perlite-filled pails. They have been that way for two months and have not started growing any leaves. They will begin to root in the spring but other than misting the terminal leaves, I won't begin to water and won't put them in a semi-shaded location outside until I see nice leaf growth. I will only lightly water even then. Of course, they won't go outside until my low temperature stays at or above 50 F.

It does not matter whether you have a red, white, yellow, or rainbow Plumeria. Just treat them all the same. Keep in mind that red plumeria are much more difficult and take much longer to root than the others. The redder the flower, the longer and harder the rooting.
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

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Jan 9, 2015 10:11 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: david sevitt
jerusalem israel
drdawg said:I don't really think Tarev meant to say "pitch it", which means "throw it away". IF you have soft, mushy stem tissue develop on the CUT END, just cut that stem back above the soft area. The tissue should be white and ooze "sap". If you still see brown/black tissue, just cut back some more until you come to firm, white tissue. If the other end, that end with the small, just-forming leaves, rots - well, the plant is toast. It is time for the garbage-toss! Sticking tongue out

DON'T water your unrooted plumeria at all. Just keep it/them warm (50 F or above is fine). You can keep it/them on a shelf, on the floor, wherever. It doesn't matter whether there is a lot of light or little light. Plumeria are not growing during their dormant time anyway. If you have medium ready to root that/those plumeria (such as a pail of coarse perlite) you can go ahead and stick your plumeria 3-4" deep in that. It is not rooting time yet, but it won't hurt to store it/them that way. I have dozens of cuttings stored just like that, a dozen per coarse perlite-filled pails. They have been that way for two months and have not started growing any leaves. They will begin to root in the spring but other than misting the terminal leaves, I won't begin to water and won't put them in a semi-shaded location outside until I see nice leaf growth. I will only lightly water even then. Of course, they won't go outside until my low temperature stays at or above 50 F.

It does not matter whether you have a red, white, yellow, or rainbow Plumeria. Just treat them all the same. Keep in mind that red plumeria are much more difficult and take much longer to root than the others. The redder the flower, the longer and harder the rooting.


wow that was a great answer for me.about the plumeria.thanks alot.
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Jan 9, 2015 10:17 AM CST
Name: tarev
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Hi David! It was @Elaine who mentioned "pitch it" Smiling
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Jan 9, 2015 10:32 AM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
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Whoops, sorry Tarev. Don't be mad. *Blush*
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Jan 9, 2015 10:43 AM CST
Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
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No problemo Big Grin
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Jan 9, 2015 10:47 AM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
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Oh, I love bilinguals! Thumbs up
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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Jan 9, 2015 10:53 AM CST
Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
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Walang anuman, De nada, You're welcome, Doitashimashite. Big Grin

Good morning Ken! Hi David! Hope all our suggestions will work for you! Big Grin
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Jan 9, 2015 11:17 AM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
Holy cow, multi-lingual! I am doing good to speak English well. Sighing!

My English, as many people have pointed out, is not really "proper-English", it is "Southern-speak". Sticking tongue out
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

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Jan 9, 2015 11:19 AM CST
Name: Elaine
Sarasota, Fl
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Too bad none of us speak a little Hebrew, to help David out. Four languages there, Tarev? Tres bien!
Elaine

"Success is stumbling from failure to failure with no loss of enthusiasm." –Winston Churchill
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Jan 9, 2015 11:54 AM CST
Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
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Aww just my heritage heheh..and required courses in college before Big Grin

Oh btw, David, just to add about the Plumeria, sometimes, the cutting as it wakes up, it may first attempt to bloom, but those are just latent buds from previous season. Do not be tempted to water as yet. Wait for real leaves to form and develop.
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Jan 9, 2015 11:54 AM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
I agree
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The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.

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