Roses forum: Has any one seen Jolie Veranda or Coral Cove

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Name: Patty W
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Pattyw5
Jan 11, 2015 12:44 PM CST
Trying to decide where to plant these. I have Easy Does It which is a blend of several colors but the over all look is a soft orange color. How do the others look to your eye? If Coral Cove is a strong coral then I need to watch what I plant it with. The same is true of Jolie. It's color is described differently on various sites.

Of course I can always move them if my best guess is wrong. But it sure would be nice to get it right the first time.
Name: Zuzu
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Jan 11, 2015 1:43 PM CST

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It depends on the look you want. The three planted together might look like a big sea of coral-salmon shades. I prefer contrasts, so I try not to plant two similar roses next to each other, but everyone's aesthetic tastes differ.
Name: Patty W
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Jan 13, 2015 8:40 AM CST
Thank you Zuzu, yes I like blending colors schemes. Thou these two roses won't be planted together I'm hoping perhaps that one will trend enough towards orange that it can be near a cherry red. If not there are other spots available. Thanks again!
Name: Neal Linville
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gemini_sage
Jan 13, 2015 9:01 AM CST
Its really hard to tell from photos, but the yellow center of Coral Cove makes me think the effect from a distance may be more orange.


I think I have Jolie Veranda. Home Depot had 3 colors of potted, blooming plants simply labeled "Kordes Roses". The descriptions I've read and the pics on line look to be a match, but I guess there is no way to know for sure. Its a true, solid coral color, and doesn't read as orange.
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Name: Patty W
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Jan 13, 2015 7:02 PM CST
Thank you so much, garden pictures are just what I was hoping to see. Have no idea where they will go now.

Wish our Home Depot would start to order something different. I like knock roses but a choice would be nice.
Name: Mike
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Calsurf73
Jan 14, 2015 9:39 AM CST
It just dawned on me that I have Jolie. In my climate it is definitely coral colored, no question about it.
Since my garden "evolved" into what it is there's really no color coordination or planning as far as the roses are concerned. (This has proved to be both good and bad at the same time !)
I have it planted next to pink Gruss an aachen (sp?) and they look very nice together.
I've never been good at getting coral to mix well with other colors, but I'm trying.
Name: Neal Linville
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gemini_sage
Jan 14, 2015 9:49 AM CST
Mike, I like coral with blues and purples, and soft yellows. Plants with bronze foliage often look nice with them, and softer shades of peach and salmon are nice for toning down the bright ones. I also like to use coral to tie other rose colors together, like between reds, oranges, or warm pinks. I see coral as a blend of pink and orange, and as softening the contrast when planted among them.
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Name: Patty W
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Jan 14, 2015 7:14 PM CST
Mike, I've never been good at blending coral or salmon in the garden either. Tend to stay away from those colors. Thanks for the color of Jolie. Really glad I asked.

Neal, Thanks for the blue and purple idea. I have a spot without a rose. There is purple clematis and several veronica Royal Candles. A few other things that can be moved. Now Jolie can have her own small bed.

I actually feel better about ordering it now.
Name: Mike
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Calsurf73
Jan 14, 2015 10:26 PM CST
Blue seems to be a good "bridge" color. I like Neal's idea of the lavender as well.
I used to just plant things at random with no thought given to color harmony. Now I try to !

That Veranda series of roses is really nice if you need a smaller rose that isn't a "miniature". I'm going to look for more of them.
Jolie has such perfect traditional shaped blooms and the fragrance is very nice as well. The one I have blooms in clusters as well as singles. The blooms last well over a week (for me, anyway) and the thorniness appears to be minimal. I rarely cut the blooms for a vase so I don't know how long their vase life is.
Name: Patty W
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Jan 17, 2015 3:06 PM CST
Mike - lavender is difficult for me to keep alive here. It usually dies in freezing cold wet winters. Your mention of lavender reminded me of some short nepeta that I have. They would look nice there as well. Thank you!
Name: Neal Linville
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gemini_sage
Jan 17, 2015 4:36 PM CST
Oh, I just meant the color, not the plant.
"...and don't think the garden loses its ecstasy in winter. It's quiet, but the roots are down there riotous." Rumi
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Jan 18, 2015 10:52 PM CST
I totally agree with the way Neal places and blends coral roses. Rather than try to match them up with other roses, I place them with grasses, shrubs, and trees with burgundy foliage. I'll try to find a picture or list of what I use--there's a good variety of plants that combine peacefully with coral tones.
In a way, it's a bit like picking a sweater to go with a dress, or jewelry. My closet has a lot of coral and pink, just like the garden! Lovey dubby
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Name: Patty W
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Pattyw5
Jan 19, 2015 9:14 AM CST
Looking forward to your list. When I do my best to blend colors it just seems calming. I find myself enjoying these areas. I love my daylilies but had to dig up 100 of them this past summer while they were in bloom. Rearranged them so complimentary tones were together or I would never would have enjoyed them as much. Hope I did good.
Name: Neal Linville
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gemini_sage
Jan 19, 2015 12:45 PM CST
Patty, I do the same thing! If something is off and bugging me, I can't enjoy it- got to fix it right then. And if I wait till the right time, I'll forget anyway.
"...and don't think the garden loses its ecstasy in winter. It's quiet, but the roots are down there riotous." Rumi
Name: Mike
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Calsurf73
Jan 19, 2015 6:37 PM CST
Sometimes I wish I'd never even heard of "color harmony" ! LOL
It's enough to make ya crazy.
Name: Zuzu
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Jan 19, 2015 6:45 PM CST

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Aside from wanting contrasts, I never worry about the blends of colors in my garden. I firmly believe that nothing in nature clashes with anything else in nature.
Name: Mike
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Calsurf73
Jan 19, 2015 6:56 PM CST
........except for when it comes to people !
Name: Patty W
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Pattyw5
Jan 19, 2015 7:14 PM CST
That is very true Zuzu. Maybe for me it's that I have so many flowering plants that are not interspersed with greenery as you find in nature. Or I'm just cursed with color harmony.

Had a good friend that I drove crazy with my color echo planted pots.

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