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Jan 19, 2015 12:35 PM CST
Name: Bonnie Sojourner
Harris Brake Lake, Arkansas (Zone 7a)
Magnolia zone
Region: United States of America Region: Arkansas Master Gardener: Arkansas Irises Plant and/or Seed Trader Moon Gardener
Garden Ideas: Master Level Dragonflies Bulbs Garden Art Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Gardens in Buckets
YAY!!! Thank you, Neal!
Thro' all the tumult and the strife I hear the music ringing; It finds an echo in my soul— How can I keep from singing?
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Jan 19, 2015 12:38 PM CST
(Zone 9b)
Region: California Garden Ideas: Level 1
Thank you! I tip my hat to you.

Greg, that does really look like it!

All of these NoIDs and more, were given to us 20-25 years ago by a hybridizer who passed away several years ago (may she rest in peace). They are tough irises and survived on their own until 2 years ago. That's when I started digging them up and taking care of them. There are still several more I need to dig up and replant.
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Jan 19, 2015 12:43 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Neal Linville
Winchester, KY (Zone 6a)
Bulbs Charter ATP Member Cottage Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Irises Roses
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Garden Ideas: Level 2
I kinda see the tough oldies and the big poofy modern hybrids as rough and tumble country girls and prissy pageant girls. The pageant girls need some pampering, but the country girls are survivors no matter what's thrown at them.
"...and don't think the garden loses its ecstasy in winter. It's quiet, but the roots are down there riotous." Rumi
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Jan 19, 2015 12:48 PM CST
Name: Marilyn
Central California (Zone 9b)
Annuals Irises Dog Lover Composter Cat Lover Region: California
Butterflies Birds Bee Lover Enjoys or suffers hot summers Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Bonnie, Your brick/rust noid reminds me of the iris Popstar which I am thinking of buying from Napa. I don't know how long you've had it. Here's one of Brad's photos for comparison.

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Jan 19, 2015 12:48 PM CST
Name: Greg Hodgkinson
Hanover PA (Zone 6b)
Garden Photography Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Irises Region: Japan Region: Pennsylvania
#11 does very much look like Indian Chief
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Jan 19, 2015 12:50 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Neal Linville
Winchester, KY (Zone 6a)
Bulbs Charter ATP Member Cottage Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Irises Roses
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Garden Ideas: Level 2
Greg, I thought so too. Thumbs up
"...and don't think the garden loses its ecstasy in winter. It's quiet, but the roots are down there riotous." Rumi
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Jan 19, 2015 12:55 PM CST
Name: Marilyn
Central California (Zone 9b)
Annuals Irises Dog Lover Composter Cat Lover Region: California
Butterflies Birds Bee Lover Enjoys or suffers hot summers Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Rob, I don't know how long you've had #4 but it reminds me of Amarillo Frills.

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Jan 19, 2015 12:56 PM CST
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
Garden Photography Cat Lover Irises Region: North Carolina Peonies Enjoys or suffers hot summers
Celebrating Gardening: 2015
gemini_sage said:Donald, I believe you found it! I had thought maybe Cranberry Ice, but Lady Friend does look more accurate. I will get better close up shots this spring to compare. It is such a great, distinctive color!


Neil - I have Lady Friend. I can send you bloom time shots for comparison, and might have a start for you too.

And love your analogy of country girls vs prissy girls.
"The chimera is a one time happenstance event where the plant has a senior moment and forgets what it is doing." - Paul Black
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Jan 19, 2015 1:00 PM CST
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
Garden Photography Cat Lover Irises Region: North Carolina Peonies Enjoys or suffers hot summers
Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Rob, if your #3 is too old to be Chuckwagon, then it seems you and Sherry may have the same Noid? Look at her third Noid. The left pic looks similar to your pic.
"The chimera is a one time happenstance event where the plant has a senior moment and forgets what it is doing." - Paul Black
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Jan 19, 2015 1:00 PM CST
Name: Bonnie Sojourner
Harris Brake Lake, Arkansas (Zone 7a)
Magnolia zone
Region: United States of America Region: Arkansas Master Gardener: Arkansas Irises Plant and/or Seed Trader Moon Gardener
Garden Ideas: Master Level Dragonflies Bulbs Garden Art Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Gardens in Buckets
I love your iris analogy, Neal. I have thought of the older irises as rural folks who live off the land and survive the storms and the new ones as city folk who have food delivered to their door and would be lost on their own. LOL
Thro' all the tumult and the strife I hear the music ringing; It finds an echo in my soul— How can I keep from singing?
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Jan 19, 2015 1:36 PM CST
Name: Marilyn
Central California (Zone 9b)
Annuals Irises Dog Lover Composter Cat Lover Region: California
Butterflies Birds Bee Lover Enjoys or suffers hot summers Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Here are the Noids that I have pictures of:


Thumb of 2015-01-19/Moiris/16d361 #1 (Not Undercurrent)


Thumb of 2015-01-19/Moiris/9313f5 #2 (May be "Conjuration...but no horns so far)


Thumb of 2015-01-19/Moiris/94ba20 #3 (horrible photo...thinking this may be Red Hawk)


Thumb of 2015-01-19/Moiris/3777e9 Thumb of 2015-01-19/Moiris/14805e

#4 (Don't know what it is...But I love it! I call it Mystery Brown)
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Jan 19, 2015 1:44 PM CST
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
Garden Photography Cat Lover Irises Region: North Carolina Peonies Enjoys or suffers hot summers
Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Love your Mystery Brown. What a nice rich color.
"The chimera is a one time happenstance event where the plant has a senior moment and forgets what it is doing." - Paul Black
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Jan 19, 2015 1:45 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Neal Linville
Winchester, KY (Zone 6a)
Bulbs Charter ATP Member Cottage Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Irises Roses
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Garden Ideas: Level 2
Love that rich coral pink! #2 looks like a beacon of light, bet that's gorgeous in the garden. And I'm normally not a fan of browns, but that one is so rich and warm- wow!
"...and don't think the garden loses its ecstasy in winter. It's quiet, but the roots are down there riotous." Rumi
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Jan 19, 2015 1:46 PM CST
Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
Butterflies Vegetable Grower Keeper of Poultry Irises Keeps Horses Dog Lover
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Could that brown one be Chocolate Ecstasy?
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Jan 19, 2015 2:00 PM CST
Name: Bonnie Sojourner
Harris Brake Lake, Arkansas (Zone 7a)
Magnolia zone
Region: United States of America Region: Arkansas Master Gardener: Arkansas Irises Plant and/or Seed Trader Moon Gardener
Garden Ideas: Master Level Dragonflies Bulbs Garden Art Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Gardens in Buckets
This is an old lavender iris that has been growing around here for at least sixty years. If you pull some up and drop a rhizome on the gravel a root will go down and get sustenance and the next spring you will have a bloom.

Its a 'cast iron' iris as opposed to a 'fine china' one.

Thumb of 2015-01-19/grannysgarden/03cfd2

Not a very good photo but they grow here in the shade of a redbud tree.
Thumb of 2015-01-19/grannysgarden/7277a3
Thro' all the tumult and the strife I hear the music ringing; It finds an echo in my soul— How can I keep from singing?
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Jan 19, 2015 2:09 PM CST
(Zone 9b)
Region: California Garden Ideas: Level 1
A lot of beautiful NoIDs are in this thread! Hurray!

I agree, that one of mine does look like Indian Chief. Thumbs up

Got to love the tough ones Bonnie! Green Grin!
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Jan 19, 2015 2:11 PM CST
Name: Marilyn
Central California (Zone 9b)
Annuals Irises Dog Lover Composter Cat Lover Region: California
Butterflies Birds Bee Lover Enjoys or suffers hot summers Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Here are 2 photos of Chocolate Ecstasy:

Thumb of 2015-01-19/Moiris/a811ba Thumb of 2015-01-19/Moiris/1c2da4

Yes they really are the same iris!

This one is very similar...but look at the border on the falls. And the beard seems to be a lighter color. I guess I'll have to watch them for another season.

Thumb of 2015-01-19/Moiris/2965c8
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Jan 19, 2015 2:13 PM CST
(Zone 9b)
Region: California Garden Ideas: Level 1
Oh ...my! They are both beauties, so I'll call your NoID "Chocolate Drool".
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Jan 19, 2015 2:18 PM CST
Name: Bonnie Sojourner
Harris Brake Lake, Arkansas (Zone 7a)
Magnolia zone
Region: United States of America Region: Arkansas Master Gardener: Arkansas Irises Plant and/or Seed Trader Moon Gardener
Garden Ideas: Master Level Dragonflies Bulbs Garden Art Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Gardens in Buckets
Too funny, Rob..... but gross. I prefer Marilyn's Mystery Brown or even Mystery Chocolate or Marilyn's Brown.... but Chocolate Drool.... ummm, no.
Thro' all the tumult and the strife I hear the music ringing; It finds an echo in my soul— How can I keep from singing?
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Jan 19, 2015 2:22 PM CST
Name: Nancy Cook
York, SC (Zone 7a)
Garden Photography Daylilies Dog Lover Irises Region: Utah
Hi everyone. I have a beautiful NOID that is about 36-38" tall and blooms Midseason here. I thought it might be 'Pacific Union" Any ideas
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