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Name: Debra
Garland, TX (NE Dallas suburb) (Zone 8a)
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lovemyhouse
Jan 21, 2015 2:15 PM CST
Sowed a slew of wildflower seed and some are coming up. Any idea what this one is?
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Name: Lin
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plantladylin
Jan 21, 2015 2:17 PM CST
Reminds me of a Lily of some sort. First thing I thought of was Easter Lily as I spotted mine popping up today. Easter Lily (Lilium longiflorum)
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Name: Greene
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greene
Jan 21, 2015 4:18 PM CST
It reminds me of Alstroemeria...just not exactly the kind in my yard.
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Name: Connie
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pardalinum
Jan 21, 2015 4:56 PM CST
When were the seeds planted? It would take a couple of years to get that stage from most lilium seed. L. longiflorum-- maybe a little faster.
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plantladylin
Jan 21, 2015 6:40 PM CST
Debra, I wonder if perhaps you had bulb(s)/tuber(s) of some sort (already in that area where you sowed the seeds) that maybe you forgot about?

I looked through all five pages of Alstromeria in the ATP database but couldn't find anything that resembled your plant. I'm not very good at identifying plants by comparing photos; what looks right to my eyes is sometimes waaay off, but I still like the challenge. Green Grin!

While googling I did find this hybrid Lily that seems to have the growth habit and foliage that looks very similar to your photo. The very first one shown here, Lilium 'Algarve' (Hybrid of L. longifolium and an Asiatic Lily) http://www.iowaregionallilysociety.com/lib_LA_a_to_b.html


I'm going to be out of town tomorrow but if I remember before I leave here I will go out and take a picture of my L. longifolium that are coming up. These are older photos from January 2013
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Name: Debra
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lovemyhouse
Jan 21, 2015 7:53 PM CST
Lin, no, these are definitely from the seed mix I threw out in November, then again in December. That foliage sure looks similar, though.
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Name: Connie
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pardalinum
Jan 21, 2015 8:05 PM CST
So it can't be a lilium if it is from this planting of seed. They have to build a bulb before they put up a stem like that. Now I'm curious to see what it turns out to be!
Name: Donald
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needrain
Jan 21, 2015 8:05 PM CST
Was it a Texas wildflower mix? Could it be Helianthus Maximiliani maybe? That one has that sort of layout in its growth pattern. I googled images for 'Helianthus Maximiliani foliage' and there are a few photos where you can see the foliage growth. If you don't use 'foliage' you pretty much only get photos of the flower. Just a guess. Where's @Horntoad

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Name: Greene
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greene
Jan 21, 2015 8:10 PM CST
Try looking at something similar to Symphyotrichum novi-belgii / New York aster; Aster.
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Name: Lin
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plantladylin
Jan 21, 2015 8:10 PM CST
Debra, I will be real curious to see what your plant turns out to be and what else comes from the wildflower mix, I bet your garden is going to be beautiful in a couple of months! Lovey dubby

I don't know a thing about Lilies or seed germination but I found this interesting:
http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/LilyGerm...
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Name: Connie
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pardalinum
Jan 21, 2015 8:19 PM CST
That was written by Darm Crook, an expert in species lilium germination. This is where I go when I need to figure out which method to use for a particular lily species.
Name: Lin
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plantladylin
Jan 21, 2015 8:26 PM CST
Connie, I found it really interesting reading!

Good eye @greene! Aster seed is sometimes included in wildflower mixes isn't it? I looked in our database but didn't find any foliage photos for Symphyotrichum novi-belgii but Debra, check out this photo:
http://gardeningwithlaura.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/201...

And, as @needrain Donald suggested, it could very well be a variety of Helianthus. There are a few Helianthus maximiliani listed in our database: http://garden.org/plants/search/text.php?q=Helianthus+maximi...
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Name: Connie
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pardalinum
Jan 21, 2015 8:37 PM CST
What I'm seeing in the data base for Helianthus maximiliani are leaves with one main vein. Debra's plant has at least three veins per leaf.
Name: Greene
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greene
Jan 21, 2015 9:00 PM CST
I am narrowing my guess to this one:
Fall Aster/Aromatic/Symphyotrichum oblongifolium (formerly Aster oblongifolius).
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Name: Donald
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needrain
Jan 21, 2015 9:06 PM CST
I have Symphyotrichum oblongifolium growing in the yard. It doesn't quite look right to me for that in my memory. Maybe it has started greening up and I can look tomorrow.
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Name: Rick R.
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Leftwood
Jan 21, 2015 11:55 PM CST
It sure looks more that a month or two old. Helianthus max. has rough leaves. These are smooth.

I would guess Linum (perenne, lewisii) or Linaria (maybe purpurea). Due to the parallel veins, Linaria is more likely.

Except for the parallel veins, it looks lie a Euphorbia, too. Is the sap milky or clear?

Is there some reason why you can't tell us the size of this plant? Confused
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Name: Debra
Garland, TX (NE Dallas suburb) (Zone 8a)
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lovemyhouse
Jan 22, 2015 8:10 AM CST
Donald, yes, it was a Texas mix.

No, Rick, there isn't a reason other than maybe no one asked. Running six to eight inches at the moment.

Thinking Rick is correct in that they are a type of linum--looked up foliage images and could it be Scarlet Flax? What do you think?
Scarlet Flax foliage
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Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
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flaflwrgrl
Jan 24, 2015 12:51 PM CST
Snapdragon??
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Name: Debra
Garland, TX (NE Dallas suburb) (Zone 8a)
Service dogs: Angels with paws.
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lovemyhouse
Jan 24, 2015 1:38 PM CST
Found the empty seed packets just today. The one Snapdragon listed is a Spurred Snapdragon and it could be, although I haven't found any clear photographs of the foliage. Scarlet Flax is the third highest proportion of the mix. Given the quantity coming up and Rick's suggestion, I am thinking more in that direction. Hope to see sometime in the next few weeks. Big Grin
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chelle
Jan 24, 2015 3:06 PM CST
I had thought snapdragon, too, but I couldn't find any pictures to support it.
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