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Jan 22, 2015 12:02 PM CST
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Name: Betty
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Has anyone here ever started climbing snapdragon/arsina seed? Do you have any tips for me?

Several years ago I purchased some plants from a nursery that is no longer in business and I can't find plants. Recently I got a seed catalog from R H Shumway that has the seeds so I ordered some and am hoping I can get some to grow. The plants that I purchased grew very well and had beautiful blooms.
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Jan 22, 2015 12:48 PM CST
Name: Jennifer
48036 MI (Zone 6b)
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I grew them two years ago from seed. I started them in jugs outside, like winter sowing but I waited until late April to do it. They were slow to start. They grew nicely over the summer but I did not get blooms until the end of summer. I love love loved them! But was sad it was for such a short time. I do not start any seeds indoors. But perhaps if you did you would get mature plants sooner and hence blooms for the summer.

I got my seeds from Summerhill.
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Jan 22, 2015 12:57 PM CST
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Name: Betty
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Thanks for the info Jennifer. I am going to try starting some indoors and see what happens. I also love them. Before my sister passed away she made a form what we call chicken wire into the shape of a garden girl with full skirt, she grew them on the form it was lovely she even hung a watering can from one of the girls arms.
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Jan 22, 2015 1:11 PM CST
Name: Jennifer
48036 MI (Zone 6b)
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Oh Betty that sounds wonderful!!

Later tonight when I get home I will see if I can find any pictures of mine so you can see how they turned out.
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Jan 23, 2015 4:49 PM CST
Name: Julia
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I grow these every year. The varieties I love are asarina "Victoria Falls' and 'Red Dragon', the foliage on these are a blueish green that is interesting in containers. I'm not a big winter sow person because of my failure a few years back. Not sure what happened but was not a high yield process for me. Crying I may try again but seeds are so darn expensive I stick to heat mats and indoor growing.
I start these in mid February keeping my seed soil at 70-75 degrees, with a plastic dome to retain moisture.
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Center front of container plant a few weeks after coming out of the greenhouse. 6/29

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This is 8/29 Love this plant and I would not be without in my containers.



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This is another fun vine for containers Rhodochiton 6/2
The tube part of the bloom falls away and the other part (looks like umbrella) stays of weeks.
Hummers like them both
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Jan 23, 2015 8:25 PM CST
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Name: Betty
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Thanks for sharing your photos. I planted them in a planter with an attached trellis, they climbed easily and covered the trellis with a little help from me to guide them. Where did you get your seeds?
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Jan 23, 2015 8:38 PM CST
Name: Julia
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Summer Hill Seeds for the Asarina
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Jan 24, 2015 6:32 AM CST
Name: Jennifer
48036 MI (Zone 6b)
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I see Swallowtail seeds offers two varieties. Twenty seeds for $2.49
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Jan 24, 2015 8:27 AM CST
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I grow these every year, but I start them inside. I start them in Promix dusted with a touch of vermiculite over the seed, they're super tiny. For tiny seeds, these are easy to start and lovely in containers.
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Jan 24, 2015 11:30 AM CST
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Name: Betty
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Thanks for the information on starting the seeds, Celene. Jennifer and Julia glad to have more places to find them will bookmark both places. Thank You!
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Jan 25, 2015 11:52 AM CST
Name: woofie
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I also grow these from seed every year; they're quite easy to get going, although I do start mine indoors. You can also overwinter them if you have a place to keep a pot. They are a tender perennial, not an annual.
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Jan 25, 2015 11:58 AM CST
Name: Alana H
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The tubers that form over summer from an early sowing can be stored cool and dark and brought back into growth the next spring. You will have large established plants quickly with little effort.
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Jan 25, 2015 12:00 PM CST
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Interesting, didn't know they had tubers. Will try this in the fall.
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Jan 25, 2015 12:07 PM CST
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Name: Betty
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springcolor said:Interesting, didn't know they had tubers. Will try this in the fall.

Good to know! Thank You!
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Jan 25, 2015 12:22 PM CST
Name: Jennifer
48036 MI (Zone 6b)
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poisondartfrog said:The tubers that form over summer from an early sowing can be stored cool and dark and brought back into growth the next spring. You will have large established plants quickly with little effort.


OMG!! I wish I had known!!! Well now I do. I guess I better get some seeds!!
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Jan 25, 2015 12:29 PM CST
Name: Alana H
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You can unearth them and store where they will not freeze or leave them in their container. Stop watering and cut off at soil line and store container dark and cool but above freezing until you want to start them back into growth.
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Jan 25, 2015 12:41 PM CST
Name: Jennifer
48036 MI (Zone 6b)
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poisondartfrog said:You can unearth them and store where they will not freeze or leave them in their container. Stop watering and cut off at soil line and store container dark and cool but above freezing until you want to start them back into growth.


I have the perfect place in the basement to store them like that.
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Jan 25, 2015 1:10 PM CST
Name: Larry
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Why I have I never thought to try and store things (plants) in my crawl space, over head high in the low end? Tons of room...might be the perfect spot for bulb storage.
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Jan 25, 2015 1:17 PM CST
Name: woofie
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I'm not sure, but I believe it's the Asarina erubescens that forms tubers, not Asarina scandens. So it may depend on the species as to whether you'll find tubers or not. I have overwintered A. scandens plants indoors and they just continued to grow and bloom on my enclosed back porch. But I never even considered looking for tubers, so maybe they do form them! I also read that you can propagate them from cuttings. Definitely going to have to try that this year!
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Jan 25, 2015 1:34 PM CST
Name: Jennifer
48036 MI (Zone 6b)
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Good point Woofie. I grew scandens. I do not remember a tuber when I dumped the pot end of season. I have limited room inside but I just may try and overwinter one as a houseplant. I really love the foliage as well as the blooms.

He is the only pic I could find of mine from 2013

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