Bulbs forum: Keeping moles out of tulips

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Frillylily
Jan 24, 2015 7:47 PM CST
I'm wondering if I could bury a plastic ice-cream tub, the gallon size ones, and plant my tulip bulbs in that? I know there would have to be a drainage hole in the bottom, but would this work to keep the moles out of my tulips? The last time I planted tulips they were all gone the next day! there were moles out there so I figure they ate them. I never saw them again!

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grannysgarden
Jan 24, 2015 8:45 PM CST
That will help Frilly. You can also cut the entire bottom out of a 4-5 gallon plastic plant bucket and bury it in the ground. Voles have never dug that far down in my garden and they abhor climbing over the top of the bucket edge. I leave at least an inch of the rim above ground. The foliage covers it quickly. I also use this method of planting as a way to keep some plants that travel by roots and rhizomes in their proper place.
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Frillylily
Jan 24, 2015 8:54 PM CST
oh, my I don't think I could dig that deep... granny must have bigger muscles than me! I suppose a bucket would last forever as heavy as they are. The ice-cream tubs are thinner so I don't know how long they would last before needing replaced. I would think a few years though.
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grannysgarden
Jan 24, 2015 8:59 PM CST
If the soil is hard for you to dig it will be hard for the voles also. That is a good thing. lol
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RoseBlush1
Jan 24, 2015 9:38 PM CST
Maybe I missed something. Moles ? Voles ?

My understanding is that moles don't eat plant material, but grubs and things like that.

Lyn
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Frillylily
Jan 24, 2015 10:18 PM CST
all I know is that some tunneling rat ate them all up by the next morning!

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RoseBlush1
Jan 25, 2015 12:29 AM CST
That sounds more like a gopher. Do you have them in your part of the country ?

Lyn
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grannysgarden
Jan 25, 2015 8:24 AM CST
I have voles. They are quite similar in size and shape to moles. They eat my bulbs.... except for daffodils and some alliums, ALL my bulbs. Most people call them moles. They make smaller tunnels than gophers and can get in tiny places to eat my bulbs. Voles are a great garden nuisance for me. I do not have gophers here..... so far. smiles
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Seedfork
Jan 25, 2015 9:13 AM CST
I have moles and voles, I think the little voles like to use the tunnels the moles dig. So I could see the moles digging around the bulbs and the voles using the tunnels to get to the bulbs.
Anyhow what caught my attention was using the plastic ice cream containers. I love using those things for planting in, and the thought of using them for bulbs sounds great too. I try to buy ice cream in the 1gal.1pt plastic containers, they are my favorite. Now I am trying to cut back on eating things like ice cream and thinking about collecting more of those nifty plastic containers is not helping.
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Frillylily
Jan 25, 2015 10:09 AM CST
I don't think they are gophers. But I did kill a few moles and seen some dead ones on the ground the neighbors cats had ahold of... played w but didn't eat.
Moles are nasty looking things. Voles I think just look more like a mouse, not really ugly like a mole. All I know is they were gone by the next morning-so much for being Queen of the Night!


I love using those ice cream containers for everything. I buy the square ones so they stack easily. they are semi-transparent so it's easy to see what is in them. I like to use them for mixing small batches of paint sometimes. Great for storing muffins, watermelon ect in the kitchen too! Craft supplies...
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gemini_sage
Jan 25, 2015 3:53 PM CST
Frilly, I've dealt with this too, and I think voles use mole tunnels and take advantage of exposed food. My cats catch both frequently. I've used 6" plastic pots underground containing the bulbs, and they did the trick for years.
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gemini_sage
Feb 22, 2015 1:41 PM CST
Frilly, I recalled a tip from another member I wanted to share with you (although I can't recall who it was?..). She surrounded all of her tulip bulbs with Daffodils (small varieties, that are inexpensive and have small bulbs that are easy to work around other things). She said moles/voles were present, but didn't bother her tulips when she started planting that way. I hadn't intentionally done that, but realized later that my rodent prone bulbs near Daffodils had always remained safe.
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Marilyn
Sep 17, 2015 9:56 PM CST
gemini_sage said:Frilly, I recalled a tip from another member I wanted to share with you (although I can't recall who it was?..). She surrounded all of her tulip bulbs with Daffodils (small varieties, that are inexpensive and have small bulbs that are easy to work around other things). She said moles/voles were present, but didn't bother her tulips when she started planting that way. I hadn't intentionally done that, but realized later that my rodent prone bulbs near Daffodils had always remained safe.


@gemini_sage

I'm pretty sure that it was @Cem9165 that said that. Thumbs up I'm thinking about ordering the small daffodils and doing the same thing. I'll still scatter the crushed oyster shells around the tulips and crocus in the hole when I plant them .

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gemini_sage
Sep 18, 2015 5:02 AM CST
I think you're right Marilyn! Topolino would be a good daffodil to use- it stays short and they're inexpensive.
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Marilyn
Sep 18, 2015 4:11 PM CST
That's the small daff I'm thinking about getting. Hopefully, it will deter the wild rabbits from eating the tulip and crocus plants after they emerge.
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Name: Neal Linville
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gemini_sage
Sep 19, 2015 6:17 AM CST
You know what they say about great minds!

I'd never really gotten into many miniature daffs, but have been looking more closely at them lately. Brent and Becky's offers some real cuties! I ordered a few of one called Snow Baby, a little white trumpet, that looks adorable. I had thought this big yard didn't suite minis, but now I'm realizing I need to change my idea of them- if I can effectively use any other small bulb (which I certainly do), then why shouldn't the small bulb be a daffodil? Funny to me when I realize I've been rigid in my thought process without even realizing it.
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Cem9165
Sep 19, 2015 6:57 AM CST
Hi @Marilyn,

I learned about planting the mini daffs around the tulips and lily bulbs several years ago when I was a member at DG.

Over the years I've planted Minnow, Hawera, Little Gem, and Tete-aTete.

Hawera-6 inches, 250 of them from the Netherland Bulb Co.
were planted in 2011.

Minnow- 7 inches, 200 from Colorblends were planted in 2013.

Little Gem 5-6 inches, is the shortest of all of them and so cute. I planted 100 of them from Van Egelen in 2013 around the tulip and lily bulbs.

Tete-a-Tete- 6-8 inches, was bought locally, and I have planted 100+ since 2010.

This has really helped decrease the loss of tulip and lily bulbs. I've found 2 dead moles in the garden this year, one on the front lawn, and one in my new back bed, Eewwww!
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ge1836
Sep 19, 2015 8:49 AM CST
HEY Neal. You have mail and a FB message

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