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Feb 9, 2015 2:07 PM CST
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Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
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Mike, your illustration photo looks just like the 'Bandywine' we grew many years ago. Over the years we have tried both purchased seed and started plants carrying this name. None of them seem to really be the same tomato from all those years ago.
Can you tell me a source for the true 'Brandywine'?
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Feb 9, 2015 10:31 PM CST
Name: Mike Dunton
Liberal, Oregon (Zone 8b)
Plant Database Moderator Tomato Heads Farmer Organic Gardener Composter Heirlooms
Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Herbs Seller of Garden Stuff Vermiculture Region: Pacific Northwest
Hi Lynn,

The history of what we can call the "Brandywine" category is complex, convoluted and riddled with errors, myth, and lore. It is still getting sorted out but what we do know is that regardless of what you read on most seed sites, the original 'Brandywine' tomato was regular leaf, red fruited and released by Johnson and Stokes in 1889.

For whatever reason, the name is now associated with many different varieties, probably for marketing reasons. There are pinks, yellow, black, etc.

To compound things, several years back, the primary commercial grower of tomato seeds for most of the garden seed companies, mixed up their stock. It was a mess and some seed companies, I suppose in an effort to save face, simply changed their descriptions! That is how red, potato leaf "Brandywine" appeared.

Since we raise our tomato seeds, we didn't get caught up in all that drama. The 'Brandywine' that we offer is red and regular leaf. We do also carry pink, 'Sudduth Strain' and yellow.

Best,

Mike
Biodiversity preservationist, horticultural historian, seedsman and farmer. Seedsman Hall of Fame

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Feb 10, 2015 6:30 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
Your above post explains why we could never find the tomato we knew as Brandywine. Everything we find now is potato leaved. On my way to get some seed. Thank you Mike.
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Feb 11, 2015 3:25 AM CST
Name: Mike Dunton
Liberal, Oregon (Zone 8b)
Plant Database Moderator Tomato Heads Farmer Organic Gardener Composter Heirlooms
Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Herbs Seller of Garden Stuff Vermiculture Region: Pacific Northwest
Thank you, Lynn. I think that most of the reputable companies have their stock straightened out. This was an event that happened quite a few years back.

Mike
Biodiversity preservationist, horticultural historian, seedsman and farmer. Seedsman Hall of Fame

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Feb 11, 2015 10:27 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
Everything offered in my area as 'Brandywine' has been the potato leaf type, and not the same color or shape. I look forward to starting the seed I just purchased from Victory Seed Company.
Again, thank you so much for your help.
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Feb 11, 2015 12:17 PM CST
Name: Mike Dunton
Liberal, Oregon (Zone 8b)
Plant Database Moderator Tomato Heads Farmer Organic Gardener Composter Heirlooms
Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Herbs Seller of Garden Stuff Vermiculture Region: Pacific Northwest
Thank you, Lynn. We have been growing this one here on the farm (just up the road from you) since 2003 and it does quite well. Our parent stock was sent to us by collector and tomato expert, Craig LeHoullier.

Keep me posted how it goes this summer. ~Mike
Biodiversity preservationist, horticultural historian, seedsman and farmer. Seedsman Hall of Fame

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Feb 11, 2015 10:23 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
I didn't realize until just now that you are so close to where I live. That means you would be a perfect source for what would grow well in Dallas, OR.
I will keep you posted.
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Feb 13, 2015 3:03 PM CST
Name: Mike Dunton
Liberal, Oregon (Zone 8b)
Plant Database Moderator Tomato Heads Farmer Organic Gardener Composter Heirlooms
Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Herbs Seller of Garden Stuff Vermiculture Region: Pacific Northwest
Hi Lynn,

The focus of our preservation mission is far reaching. Although we are local, we do not try to focus on being a local company. I only say that because there are things, (certain day-length sensitive onions, some very late season Southern peas, etc.) that are tough to grow here.

But for the most part, we are blessed with a really good growing season and can grow just about anything here with a little planning and care. If you ever have questions, feel free to shoot me an email.

Best,

Mike
Biodiversity preservationist, horticultural historian, seedsman and farmer. Seedsman Hall of Fame

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Feb 13, 2015 5:47 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
Thank you for your help and information Mike. It is much appreciated.
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Feb 14, 2015 3:03 AM CST
Name: Mike Dunton
Liberal, Oregon (Zone 8b)
Plant Database Moderator Tomato Heads Farmer Organic Gardener Composter Heirlooms
Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Herbs Seller of Garden Stuff Vermiculture Region: Pacific Northwest
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Biodiversity preservationist, horticultural historian, seedsman and farmer. Seedsman Hall of Fame

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