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Name: Sherry
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wcgypsy
Feb 10, 2015 10:46 AM CST
This persimmon looks more like a Fuyu Persimmon, do they have the same taste characteristics?
I could be wrong...
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"maybe I should have kept my mouth shut....."
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treehugger
Feb 10, 2015 2:17 PM CST
This native has to be really ripe before you can eat it. In the picture it still has a long way to go. It will turn a orangish brown and look as if it is no longer good to eat. That's when you eat them. Before that they are to I guess bitter.

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RockGardner
Feb 10, 2015 2:32 PM CST
I agree with Sherry that it must be a Fuyu variety. The Fuyu has a flattened shape and can be eaten while firm. The Persimmon (Diospyros virginiana) is astringent and needs to be "over-ripe" to be edible.
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eclayne
Feb 11, 2015 10:17 AM CST

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The variety photos from National Plant Germplasm System (USDA/ARS) might be helpful. Underneath Accessions: check "Include Images:" then select "List". Fruit shapes seems to vary for both species. I hope this is helpful.

D. virginiana
http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?14329

D. kaki
http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?14293
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Name: Sherry
Northern California
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wcgypsy
Feb 11, 2015 10:36 AM CST
It is helpful, thank you. I've not seen persimmons with that shape other than Fuyu....
I've grown Hachiya and Fuyu, but may consider growing other types....
I could be wrong...
and.....
"maybe I should have kept my mouth shut....."

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RockGardner
Feb 11, 2015 11:07 AM CST
Evan, If that's the case, since the taste and texture of the two varieties are very different, that leaves it upon the member who posts the pic to do a "taste test" before posting. Hopefully this is treehugger's own photo and of a tree in which she actually ate the fruit. Otherwise we don't know which variety it is and thus belongs in a generic Diospyros category. I can say I've eaten plenty of both varieties, and in my experience the kaki has always had the flattened shape and the virginiana has always had the rounded shape.
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Name: Sherry
Northern California
Sunset Zone 17
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wcgypsy
Feb 11, 2015 1:26 PM CST
I agree, but I'm not an expert on the different types since I've not grown or eaten any other than the Hachiya and Fuyu that I've grown.
I could be wrong...
and.....
"maybe I should have kept my mouth shut....."

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