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Name: Keith
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keithp2012
Feb 10, 2015 4:24 PM CST
I'm getting acorns shipped to me, says they were collected 3 months ago but are fresh. I read if they dry out they won't germinate. Besides looking, how can I tell if the embryo is still alive and not dryed out so I know which to plant right away?
Name: Larry
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Seedfork
Feb 10, 2015 4:37 PM CST
Looks like floating them in water and visual inspection are good indicators.
http://sactree.com/pages/345
http://www.nsl.fs.fed.us/collection%20and%20care%20of%20acor...
Name: Keith
West Babylon, NY (Zone 7a)
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keithp2012
Feb 10, 2015 5:20 PM CST
[quote="Seedfork"]Looks like floating them in water and visual inspection are good indicators.
http://sactree.com/pages/345
]http://www.nsl.fs.fed.us/collection%20and%20care%20of%20acor...

Thank you Larry!
Name: Tori
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GardenGoober
Mar 9, 2015 1:23 PM CST
Oh my gosh! I have zillions all over the ground around my home. The deer love them.

Just curious, Keith, what do you do with acorns?
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drdawg
Mar 9, 2015 1:50 PM CST
I can send you all the water oak, white oak, and pin oak acorns you want in the fall. The squirrels won't be happy though. Whistling
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Name: Keith
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keithp2012
Mar 9, 2015 2:00 PM CST
GardenGoober said:Oh my gosh! I have zillions all over the ground around my home. The deer love them.

Just curious, Keith, what do you do with acorns?


I give them to the squirrels and birds but rarer species like Burr or Sawtooth acorns I got im growing. Oak trees are few and far between mostly maples, so come fall birds and squirrels really don't have much to eat. My grandma owns a property with so many oak trees she got about 5 garbage bags full but she won't give me any Grumbling
Name: Tori
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GardenGoober
Mar 9, 2015 2:06 PM CST
drdawg said:I can send you all the water oak, white oak, and pin oak acorns you want in the fall. The squirrels won't be happy though. Whistling


The squirrels about ate us out of house and home at our last house (rafters, wiring, insulation for nests, fascia, soffits, and so on) so I'm no longer fond of the little suckers. Thumbs down
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Name: Tori
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GardenGoober
Mar 9, 2015 2:09 PM CST
keithp2012 said:
... so come fall birds and squirrels really don't have much to eat.

Hmmm... what a shame. I feel bad for the birds, not so much for the squirrels. Glare

keithp2012 said:My grandma owns a property with so many oak trees she got about 5 garbage bags full but she won't give me any Grumbling

Well that's not very nice. [And here I go again with the same question...] What does SHE do with them?!! Big Grin

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drdawg
Mar 9, 2015 2:51 PM CST
That's a good question, Tori. Five garbage bags full of acorns. Holy cow! Sticking tongue out

Keep in mind I said the squirrels would not be happy. I did not say I like them, though at times they are fun to watch. I trapped and "relocated" 24 of them last spring/early summer (as well as two coons, three opossums, and lots of birds by accident), so its not like I want to keep them around. I would allow them to raid my bird feeders but draw the line when they begin to destroy my valuable orchids. Unfortunately, I have several back again. Hopefully these are new ones, not the ones I relocated five miles out of town. It looks like I will be doing some more trapping. Whistling
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Name: Tori
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GardenGoober
Mar 9, 2015 3:20 PM CST
drdawg said:That's a good question, Tori. Five garbage bags full of acorns. Holy cow! Sticking tongue out

Keep in mind I said the squirrels would not be happy. I did not say I like them, though at times they are fun to watch. I trapped and "relocated" 24 of them last spring/early summer (as well as two coons, three opossums, and lots of birds by accident), so its not like I want to keep them around. I would allow them to raid my bird feeders but draw the line when they begin to destroy my valuable orchids. Unfortunately, I have several back again. Hopefully these are new ones, not the ones I relocated five miles out of town. It looks like I will be doing some more trapping. Whistling


We were told by a professional trapper that you have to relocate them at least ten, but preferably 20, miles to keep them from finding their way back. Blinking
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Plantsmylove
Mar 9, 2015 3:41 PM CST
Itts better then having orkin " take care of it" at least. Sad



On the plus side I did find a squrrel repellent that actually works.
Name: Keith
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keithp2012
Mar 9, 2015 7:42 PM CST
GardenGoober said:
Hmmm... what a shame. I feel bad for the birds, not so much for the squirrels. Glare


Well that's not very nice. [And here I go again with the same question...] What does SHE do with them?!! Big Grin



Throws them out
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drdawg
Mar 9, 2015 8:08 PM CST
Yikes, I am too lazy to drive 20 miles to "relocate" those squirrels. They will just have to keep coming back until they tire of it. Whistling
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Name: Anne
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Xeramtheum
Mar 9, 2015 9:19 PM CST
Find a microwave tower with woodpeckers nearby and you'll have all the acorns you could ever want.

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Name: Keith
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keithp2012
Mar 9, 2015 11:38 PM CST
Xeramtheum said:Find a microwave tower with woodpeckers nearby and you'll have all the acorns you could ever want.

]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fboD0r8T1Qc


Hilarious!
Name: Tori
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GardenGoober
Mar 10, 2015 8:01 PM CST
keithp2012 said:

Throws them out


SERIOUSLY?!!! Sheesh!! Sad I'm sorry.
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Name: Sandy B.
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Weedwhacker
Mar 29, 2015 6:45 PM CST
Bring the squirrels up here -- I like them Smiling
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Name: Ken Ramsey
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drdawg
Mar 29, 2015 8:38 PM CST
I relocate mine, Sandy. I wish I could relocate them to MI but that's just too far to drive! Sighing!
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Name: Sandy B.
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Weedwhacker
Mar 29, 2015 8:40 PM CST
Ken, I've heard they have these newfangled contraptions called "airplanes" ... not sure if they accept squirrels as passengers, though! Big Grin
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Name: Ken Ramsey
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drdawg
Mar 29, 2015 8:47 PM CST
Do you really want to pay air-fare for my squirrels, Sandy?
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