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patweppler
Mar 1, 2015 1:01 PM CST
http://gardenofeaden.blogspot.ca/2009/03/lilium-nepalense-li...

I see that Breck's is offering some of these bulbs and I would love to give it a try to see how it would grow here
noticed in a plant book that they say they are hardy to zone 5 that I am. but they do not like to get wet in the fall or in the winter.....
the suggestion is to turn the pot on the side and bury the pot..

any thoughts on this lily

very very pretty
Name: Lorn (Roosterlorn)
S.E Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Roosterlorn
Mar 1, 2015 5:58 PM CST
Pat, this one can be rather difficult. Might I suggest a hybrid of it called Kushi Mayo. It is a lot easier to grow in the garden. Their suggestion that pots be buried sideways would apply to ALL potted lilies, regardless of what kind and type. The reason is the drain holes freeze up in the winter preventing drainages; the pot collects water which can't escape, effectively drowning the bulb at some point. Here's pictures of Kushi Mayo, the hybrid I suggested. You can buy it from The Lily Nook here: http://www.lilynook.mb.ca/Division8.html
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patweppler
Mar 1, 2015 6:10 PM CST
I already ordered 3 of them from the lily nook of that type
and also about another 30 take your chance type trumpets that he sells. these are just extra plants that did not fit the row they were in so they were planted in another road. so they will be all surprise. went this way because I wanted to add some color to the 10 Regale that I bought there too..

but Nepalense really is truly pretty
I am not sure how to over winter it here exactly if I can or have to dig it up and bring it in...
I seen in another place that you can place plastic and with the snow cover that we get they will over winter in the garden
but they are pricey is they do not grow.......

thanks for your suggestion......

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patweppler
Mar 1, 2015 6:20 PM CST
Lily (Lilium auratum var. platyphyllum)

that is the other choice I have if not the Nepalense
it is also available from the lily nook and good in my zone and easier to grow possibly..
and might look good with the regale's as well
Name: Rick R.
near Minneapolis, MN zone 4a
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Leftwood
Mar 1, 2015 8:21 PM CST
L. nepalense is a very difficult one to grow, even for very experienced species lily growers. Kushi Maya is a whole lot easier, and more robust, too.

L. auratum (and L. auratum var. platyphyllum) will be much easier than L. nepalense, but probably not is robust as Kushi Maya. Mine (in the ground) grow best in high shade and stingy watering. All the oriental lilies (includes L. auratum var. platyphyllum and Kushi Maya) like more acid soil.

Name: Mary Stella
Anchorage, AK (Zone 4b)
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Oberon46
Mar 2, 2015 12:44 AM CST
I planted L. auratum var. platyphyllum in my garden fall before last. They grew wonderfully well and had lots of flowers. Very long lasting. I really hate that the rain makes brown spots on them though. Still, they are lovely.
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patweppler
Mar 4, 2015 9:21 AM CST
I have decided against the Lilium Nepalense

and will go with the L. Auratum var platphyllum and see how it goes
the guy strongly suggested that the Kushi Maya will produce much nicer flowers then the one mentioned and I bought 3 of them already

what is the proper PH for the L. Regale
most of the soil here is around the mid. 6
and some of it is 5.00
the 5 is a very rocky bed and the 6.to 7 is a raised bed with all new soil in it..

just curious on the PH for lilies to do best.

Name: Rick R.
near Minneapolis, MN zone 4a
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Leftwood
Mar 4, 2015 11:17 AM CST
In general, lilies do fine at a neutral to slightly acid pH 7-6.8).

L. regale will tolerate a wide range, 7.5-6.0, and maybe even pH 5. Orientals will prefer acid soil of pH 6-6.5, but will grow fine in pH 6.8 if other conditions suit them well. pH 5 is likely the lower limit for orientals.

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patweppler
Mar 4, 2015 1:44 PM CST
most of the soil is 6.8 here
some 6.5 or so
and the 5.0 ...
might change out some of the ground in the rocky soil
thanks for your help
Name: Paul
Nullawarre, Victoria,Australia (Zone 10b)
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vanozzi
Mar 14, 2015 5:55 AM CST
G'day Pat, have a change of heart,take the plunge and buy a bulb of Lilium Nepalense.You never know, it may just flower for you and once seeing this specie blooming in your patch, you will remember it forever!!!

How strange, nobody has posted a picture of it on the thread--so here it is, flowering at Nullawarre last year.


Different latitudes, different attitudes
Name: Michael Norberry
Arcata, CA Zone 9 or 17 suns (Zone 9a)
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mnorberry
Mar 15, 2015 2:18 PM CST
Here are photos of L. nepalense blooming in Arcata, Calif (95521)

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Here are photos of Kushi Maya

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Name: della
hobart, tasmania
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dellac
Mar 15, 2015 4:14 PM CST
Wow Mike, that one has really extended throat colouration.

I've managed to kill my L. nepalense, again. Second year seedlings. I tried keeping them drier during autumn and winter and think I overdid it!

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patweppler
Mar 15, 2015 4:43 PM CST
mnorberry said:Here are photos of L. nepalense blooming in Arcata, Calif (95521)

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Here are photos of Kushi Maya

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I ending up buying 3 of each of these.......

for the heck of it I am going to put a piece of plastic over the Nepalense in the garden over winter here in zone 5 and cover in mulch next year. the bulbs are expensive so might take the other 2 in and just over winter them in the house........but gotta try at least one in the garden. I read a lot of people that say the plastic works for this
such a beautiful flower. maybe one of the most stunning I have seen. The Kushi Maya is nice though too


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patweppler
Mar 15, 2015 4:47 PM CST
just read the write up on the lily on this site
if the Nepalense is a species bulb then why will the seeds not come true
like the Regale??

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patweppler
Apr 27, 2015 5:53 AM CST
Hmmm so the decision was made to plant both of these types of lilies....
I have planted the Kushi Maya already
but the lily nepalense me and are in the process of discussion where to plant it.....
I have plenty of shade trees that it would get protection from the rains in the fall and so on
but I am wandering how far it will wander........

I have a Norway Maple here and also a Tulip tree.....(yellow popular)
they are both pretty heavy shaded
I also have a large honeysuckle bush that would get some protection while it is in leaf before winter.....
but then again this is going to travel........

any thoughts. would love to get it into the ground as soon as possible
it is not sprouting as of yet and in the fridge here for right now.......
Name: Øystein Hermansen
Østfold,Norway (Zone 5b)
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grapus
Apr 27, 2015 7:48 AM CST
What's a Norway Maple? Never heard about it before.
Ille bra,se.

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patweppler
Apr 27, 2015 8:07 AM CST
a very invasive maple tree here in Ontario........
not a natural tree was brought in and took off.....they are everywhere....
they are a red maple tree..........

both of these trees are heavy shade though

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patweppler
Apr 27, 2015 8:09 AM CST
http://canadiantreetours.org/species-pages/Norway_maple.html

here is the right up ..........comes in both red and green leaves........
Name: Joe
Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
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Joebass
Apr 27, 2015 8:28 AM CST
Pat just saw your question from earlier, the seeds will come true.

Øystein, maybe they are just maples where you come from!
Name: Øystein Hermansen
Østfold,Norway (Zone 5b)
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grapus
Apr 27, 2015 9:02 AM CST
The link gave me the latin name, Acer platanoides. Our name on this one, translates, are pointed maple, after the pointed leaves. Yes, they are rather common and grows in the wild. But I'm not sure if they have always been a wild tree here or have spread from gardens. I know that another maple have started to spread, Acer psaudoplatanoides, that our name on this one, translated are Platan maple.
Ille bra,se.

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